Will Schryver "Problematic" for Maxwell Institute?

[_Chap]

I reposted one of my two responses that were deleted yesterday:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... the-water/

Notice how some of these folks are so nuts, they complain that I'm the one with a bad tone.

Just go over and check out any of the number of threads where William is posting and compare his attitude and condescending tone with what I have posted. There is no comparison. How these people can be so blinded by his own arrogant tone, while constantly whining about mine, is just a mystery to me.

Sneaky tactic to post it on a Sunday ... all the mods will no doubt spend much of the day away from their screens and by then the damage to testimonies will have been done.

Seriously, I can't see anything gratuitously offensive in your post. If it is deleted again, the message will either be:

1. "Schryver is untouchable on this board."
or
2. "If we want to delete you for no reason, we can - unlike Schryver, you have no rights."

... probably both, I suspect. You aren't going to last there much longer. Still, try to go out smiling and waving as they put the match to the pyre ...

[_Fence Sitter]

I reposted one of my two responses that were deleted yesterday:

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/564 ... the-water/

Notice how some of these folks are so nuts, they complain that I'm the one with a bad tone.

Just go over and check out any of the number of threads where William is posting and compare his attitude and condescending tone with what I have posted. There is no comparison. How these people can be so blinded by his own arrogant tone, while constantly whining about mine, is just a mystery to me.

Kevin,

Would you mind reposting that post on this forum so if/when it gets deleted we have it here also. That will also let people who don't venture over there read it.

Thanks

[_Hades]

Looks like the troll is hungry for attention.

Here's what I don't get. From what I can tell, Will is a very intelligent, talented, capable person. I can understand how those things might contribute to being arrogant. Heck, I come across as arrogant sometimes--and maybe I am. But here's the thing. Will has an obvious need to be liked, but not just by his friends by by his opponents (or is that full blown enemies?). So why not use his talents to entertain? He might gain the admiration he craves.

But he doesn't do that. Instead he uses intimidation, rudeness, and just being a first class a_hole. Why? Does his brain not make the connection between cause and effect and see that crudeness and cruelty aren't well-received? I mean, I could understand if he was just some kind of sadist, but then he wants those he hurts to like him? It's almost as though while craving his enemies' approbation, he resents the power they have not to give it to him and therefore lashes out on them--ironically making it all the less likely he will ever receive their approbation.

I don't know if I have ever run into a person as narcissistic as Will. That's why it is so easy to spot his sock puppets. They can't go very long without bringing Will up and their job is to tell the world how great Will is.

Will also shows predatory characteristics. He attacks those who he perceives to be weak. He perceives women to be weak. That's where his misogyny comes from.

Why don't you just f*** the f*** off, "Mattie."

Here's Blixa telling Will that she's not weak. That's why I love ya, Blixa.

So my take on Will is, predatory, narcissistic misogynist. Better throw insecure in there too.

[_Kevin Graham]

I don't know if I have ever run into a person as narcissistic as Will. That's why it is so easy to spot his sock puppets. They can't go very long without bringing Will up and their job is to tell the world how great Will is.

And that's the thing really. If Will were such a great person deserving of so many "to the death" defenses by his "friends," then why is it that they only come from these mysterious, anonymous posters who pop in whenever his integrity is on the ropes?

Why is it that the vast majority of LDS posters who go by their real names, are those who express disdain for Will's antics?

This guy is a nut case. After he posted a giant photo of his daughter's face for any sicko to manipulate and plaster on the web, I have no doubt that it was William who signed up as "Belinda" and began posting as his wife in his own defense.

[_MsJack]

I'm sorry for not posting here lately. I'm in the middle of my end-of-the-semester crunch, and I have little time for round forty-two with another William Schryver sock puppet / Willpologist---and I think Mattie is the former at this point. Every Willpologetic that Mattie is trying here has been hashed over and beaten into the ground elsewhere, so I see no point in going over it all again here. (For example, the lie about Rollo Tomasi denying that William had called someone a c*** was taken apart here, when Nomad tried it a few months ago. Small wonder that Mattie dredges it up again.)

Mattie ~ I'll address you as if you are who you say you are. In which case I have to ask, why are you even bothering arguing this on this forum? Why are you making your case to us, as if our minds will be changed by the same defenses that were dismissed and/or dismantled months ago? If you believe that my thread caused the Maxwell Institute to cancel William's publication(s), why don't you write to them and make your case to them? Ask them whether William's behavior was problematic to them and why. Tell them that the worst thing you saw him do was call a few women "bitch" and you can't see why that's such a big deal. Tell them that you don't think I really care about misogyny, that my complaints about misogyny were just a vehicle for an anti-Mormon agenda. I can assure you that you're wrong on those counts, but that seems to be what you're articulating on this thread, so go ahead and make your case.

I will point out that I make an honest effort to speak out against misogyny and poor treatment of women where I see it, regardless of who does it, regardless of who's targeted by it. Here are some examples of me speaking up against ex-Mormons and critics of Mormonism on this forum who did it:

viewtopic.php?p=380126#p380126
viewtopic.php?p=518140#p518140

I even speak up against misandry on those rare occasions where I do see it:

viewtopic.php?p=497578#p497578

I even went to bat for you about a month ago (I don't think the OP was misogynist per se, but I don't like seeing female posters targeted with questions about their sexuality):

viewtopic.php?p=515517#p515517

That I don't get to every example that takes place hardly proves that I'm nonchalant about misogyny in general or only using the issue to attack Mormon apologists.

@ the thread ~ I don't think it's a big deal that William posted a picture of his daughter on a message board. Lots of people post pictures of their kids and families on the Internet.

[_Kevin Graham]

@ the thread ~ I don't think it's a big deal that William posted a picture of his daughter on a message board. Lots of people post pictures of their kids and families on the Internet.

Sure, but usually on Facebook where you usually have set privacy rights for only those friends that you know.

But on message forums?

I can't think of a single poster who has posted a photo of their child on these forums.

But the thing that is so troubling about Schryver's attempt is:

1) He is using his daughter to bail him out of all misogyny charges. As if it were impossible to be both a misogynists and a father.

2) Recently, someone on these forums took a photo of Juliann and manipulated it with all sorts of sexual innuendo.

It just seems like a very careless move by an irresponsible father and the mods were right to remove it at once. I mean really, what the hell was he thinking?

[_Chap]

The story of Schryver and his daughter's picture reminds of something that happened during the BSE (mad cow disease) outbreak in the 1990s. A British politician (delightfully named John Selwyn Gummer) decided to demonstrate his belief that eating British beef was safe by publicly feeding a burger to his four year old daughter.



Nice caring dad, eh?

[_Kishkumen]

I shamelessly exposed my dog to possible abuse by using a pic of him as my avatar, all the while being perfectly cognizant of Simon's perverse predilections and appetites. I still feel the pangs of a guilty conscience.