Why everyone else thinks garments are ridiculous
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When being given my garments for the first time it was explained that I should take great to not allow them to touch the floor because the floor is dirty. In fact I should avoid placing them on any unclean surface even after they had been worn.
*Drifting frowns and thinks and then asks*
"but what's the difference between the floor and my sweaty armpits?"
Harrumph....okay let's show you to the changing rooms.
*Drifting frowns and thinks and then asks*
"but what's the difference between the floor and my sweaty armpits?"
Harrumph....okay let's show you to the changing rooms.
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Quasimodo wrote:Thanks to both you, just and mak!
There is so much I don't know.
Last year, I blogged about my adventures in trying to purchase garments as a non-member spouse and posted it here. It touches on some of the questions you asked.
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Buffalo wrote:
I didn't realize that the viewpoint that sacred objects should probably be kept away from genitals and body excrement was such a controversial stand to take. I stand corrected!
Hey! Is one permitted to wear ordinary underwear UNDER the garments, so as to protect them from defilement if one feels a scruple about such matters?
If not, why not?
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Drifting wrote:When being given my garments for the first time it was explained that I should take great to not allow them to touch the floor because the floor is dirty. In fact I should avoid placing them on any unclean surface even after they had been worn.
*Drifting frowns and thinks and then asks*
"but what's the difference between the floor and my sweaty armpits?"
Harrumph....okay let's show you to the changing rooms.
Hmm, this should have been my opening post. Except I would have gone further and said "but what's the difference between the floor and my sweaty balce?"
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Chap wrote:Buffalo wrote:
I didn't realize that the viewpoint that sacred objects should probably be kept away from genitals and body excrement was such a controversial stand to take. I stand corrected!
Hey! Is one permitted to wear ordinary underwear UNDER the garments, so as to protect them from defilement if one feels a scruple about such matters?
If not, why not?
Yes.
When I went to the temple I was told I needed to wear the bra over the top and I could wear normal underwear under the bottoms for feminine purposes.
It wasn't much later when I guess they started saying you could choose to wear a bra over or UNDER the garment top. I was scandelized! My impression was that the symbols needed to be touching the skin.
Whatev.
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It's interesting to me that Mr. Mak didn't know people were offered clean garmets prior to engaging in the Holy Ceremony. Additionally, he'd probably be shocked to know (earlier) people were bathed, cleansed as it were, prior to the ceremony.
But, hey. What do we apostate-anti-Mormons know?
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just me wrote:When I went to the temple I was told I needed to wear the bra over the top
I only wear a bra when I go to my 'special' parties, so my knowledge is limited.
But I have to say it sounds a really uncomfortable idea to wear one over another undergarment. Still, if it makes you holy, you have to do it, no doubt.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Chap wrote:just me wrote:When I went to the temple I was told I needed to wear the bra over the top
I only wear a bra when I go to my 'special' parties, so my knowledge is limited.
But I have to say it sounds a really uncomfortable idea to wear one over another undergarment. Still, if it makes you holy, you have to do it, no doubt.
It's like a game. Layers? Comfort? With that many layers can there be comfort? God is kinda cruel.
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It's interesting to me that Mr. Mak didn't know people were offered clean garmets prior to engaging in the Holy Ceremony. Additionally, he'd probably be shocked to know (earlier) people were bathed, cleansed as it were, prior to the ceremony.
But, hey. What do we apostate-anti-Mormons know?
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But, hey. What do we apostate-anti-Mormons know?
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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just me wrote:It's like a game. Layers? Comfort? With that many layers can there be comfort? God is kinda cruel.
Sort of like the Mormon version of a cilice.