How do you explain the fact that apostate Tanner got Hoffman right, the opposite to the First Presidency who were clueless as to what was going on and who had direct access to God?
I don't need to explain it to you.
But if he wanted to, he could. Really. And then you'd be sorry.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Drifting wrote:She opened a book store? That's your point? Really?
Since, by default, you agree with Scratch, perhaps you'd like to explain to me why Matthew Roper is "lazy" and "harassed" Sandra Tanner.
How do you explain the fact that apostate Tanner got Hoffman right, the opposite to the First Presidency who were clueless as to what was going on and who had direct access to God?
I don't need to explain it to you.
Well, the obvious explanation Simon is that God isn't inspiring the LDS Church's FP/12. Do you dispute that? If so, how do you explain Sandra Tanner being so much more in tune with the spirit of truth and discernment than SWK, GBH, MGR, etc.?
Simon Belmont wrote:perhaps you'd like to explain to me...
I don't need to explain it to you.
You are a hypocrite.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
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Have you met Matthew Roper? Do you know him to be lazy? Do you know him to have never gotten off his "lazy ass"? Can you demonstrate that he has "standing orders" to "harass" Sandra Tanner?
Drifting wrote:How do you explain the fact that apostate Tanner got Hoffman right, the opposite to the First Presidency who were clueless as to what was going on and who had direct access to God?
I don't need to explain it to you.
Then:
Simon Belmont wrote:
Drifting wrote:You are a hypocrite.
Have you met Matthew Roper? Do you know him to be lazy? Do you know him to have never gotten off his "lazy ass"? Can you demonstrate that he has "standing orders" to "harass" Sandra Tanner?
If not, why are you agreeing with this libel?
Somehow Belmont seems to have missed the point. Sure he didn't mean to, 'count of him being a real straight-up kinda guy.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
.....you want to simplistically categorize everyone as either a good guy or a bad guy........
.....you're confused when the real world doesn't work that way........
It looks like you've been reading Moroni 7 again.
I'm not "simplistic", and I don't make simplistic judgements. If you read the whole Book of Mormon, you'd see that it, too, doesn't make "simplistic judgements".
The real problem with you, in a nutshell, is that you've traded one form of dogma for another. You flippantly quote statements, hoping to pin down most LDS leaders as hypocrites. That's as easy as shooting fish in a bowl, which is why you've never impressed me as being particularly bright.
.....you want to simplistically categorize everyone as either a good guy or a bad guy........
.....you're confused when the real world doesn't work that way........
It looks like you've been reading Moroni 7 again.
I'm not "simplistic", and I don't make simplistic judgements.
As demonstrated, inter alia, by your previous remarks.
If you read the whole Book of Mormon, you'd see that it, too, doesn't make "simplistic judgements".
No doubt it was space aliens who cause automatic writing to happen that allowed Joseph Smith to weave that rich tapestry of complex morality we find within its pages.
The real problem with you, in a nutshell, is that you've traded one form of dogma for another. You flippantly quote statements, hoping to pin down most LDS leaders as hypocrites. That's as easy as shooting fish in a bowl, which is why you've never impressed me as being particularly bright.
If I had a dollar for every Australian on a rampage on the internet.......