bcspace wrote:Most of you are in denial about sex and sexual attraction and you blame it's negative consequences on the Church or Christianity in general.
bcspace wrote:Do you claim that no one on this board has ever claimed LDS teachings on sex and modesty to be Puritanical or repressive?
Certainly you see the difference between the two statements you posted, above.
So ultimately you believe that sexual attraction does not exist and if it does, it's unnatural?
How you got that from anything I wrote is beyond me. Unbelievable. I guess liberals have problems with reading comprehension.
Your previous post is a tacit admission that this is what you believe, or that you have trouble parsing what sexual attraction really is, by denying that "girls in bikinis" have no effect on men.
If you have a problem with topless bathing, stay far, far away from Scandinavia.
However, if you LIKE topless bathing, come visit me sometime.
Amen. But then, whatever happened to the Swedish bikini team if no one is wearing bikinis anymore? lol
Yes, the church is very good at giving women a share of the blame for things that men are fully responsible for - you know, like lustful thoughts and rape.
bcspace wrote:Do you claim that no one on this board has ever claimed LDS teachings on sex and modesty to be Puritanical or repressive?
I think some of the church's teachings about sexuality are unhealthy, but that's another subject and is irrelevant to our taking responsibility for our thoughts and actions. If I can't see a pretty girl without getting aroused and masturbating, that's my problem, not hers, not the church's, nor anyone else's.
Actually, many of us see sexuality and sexual attraction as a beautiful and amazing part of human life.
As do I. But do you believe then that one should foster an atmosphere of enhanced public sexual attraction even if one does not desire sex at the moment or if other than our spouse is around?
What does "enhanced public sexual attraction" even mean? Seriously, you're just making things up.
I also want to address the fact that you seem to think sexual attraction is some kind of singular event that culminates in sexual activity. It is not. I have to hope that you were sexually attracted to your wife PRIOR to marrying her and having intercourse with her.
It is never, EVER a woman's fault for being raped or brutalized. So just stop.
Stop what? When did I ever say it is a woman's fault for being raped or brutalized? But do you deny that it is never a woman's fault if she engages in premarital sex or adultery?
You were leading down that road with your line of questioning. This double negative question you put here doesn't even make sense.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
bcspace wrote:Your previous post is a tacit admission that this is what you believe, or that you have trouble parsing what sexual attraction really is, by denying that "girls in bikinis" have no effect on men.
CFR. I never said that, never implied that. On the contrary, I said we are responsible for the effect they have on us. We aren't passive recipients of walking pornography. They have as much effect on us as we want them to.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
The answer to all bcspace's problems:
Now you can stop blaming your naughty fantasies on the neighbor lady's jogging outfit.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
I'd like to know why the stomach is so sexual as to cause men to lose all control of themselves. A one-piece does not produce these thoughts, but a bikini does?
That is laughable. I'm pretty sure people can think about sex even when the other person is fully dressed.
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~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~