science and reliion again but a new twist

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Re: science and reliion again but a new twist

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Hoops wrote:Ted's not a baptist though is he?


Yes he is, he says so HERE
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Tarski wrote:I am so embarrassed that I (as well as other atheists)


There are more of you? :)


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Tarski wrote:
Hoops wrote:Is it also worth noting that, apparently, atheists/agnostics can't spell?

I am so embarrassed that I (as well as other atheists) didn't know how to spell "religion" until now (or did I?). Is that what you were implying?
What a useless comment.

Lighten up, Tarski. It was a joke.
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Re: science and reliion again but a new twist

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MrStakhanovite wrote:
Hoops wrote:Ted's not a baptist though is he?


Yes he is, he says so HERE

Okay.
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Aristotle Smith wrote:You seem to be making an unwarranted causal connection by positing "Religion reduces science literacy."


There is always this problem (which is roughly why Hume attacked the very notion of causality). But notice that we also have an obvious plausible mechanism as to how this could happen which makes a causal explanation more reasonable. Its not like I am saying that cancer causes smoking or something.

Notice that is is just as alarming if one thinks the causation goes the other way:

1) Lack of scientific knowledge makes one more susceptible to religion.

or

2) Religious background makes one less likely to learn science.


There make be a more subtle explanation but I wonder what explanation one could give that doesn't turn out to be embarrassing for religion.
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Re: science and reliion again but a new twist

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DrW wrote:
Hoops wrote:Is it also worth noting that, apparently, atheists/agnostics can't spell?

Don't blame Tarski just because his "G" key was not functioning properly when he typed the OP Title.

Have you never experienced a g-key malfunction?

Okay. That may not have come out exactly right. Let me start again.

I use a wireless key board. When the batteries get low, it will start dropping random letters from the text as I type.

This has been the cause of more than one typo, and somethimes they were on documents more important than message board posts.

So, I was being serious. I assumed that Tarski hit the g-key (can't type that without smiling now - thank you very much) and the g-signal from the g-key on his wireless keyboard didn't make it to the cpu.

Thank you.

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Tarski wrote:I wonder what explanation one could give that doesn't turn out to be embarrassing for religion.

Science is wrong after all?
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Re: science and reliion again but a new twist

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Tarski wrote:
Aristotle Smith wrote:You seem to be making an unwarranted causal connection by positing "Religion reduces science literacy."


There is always this problem (which is roughly why Hume attacked the very notion of causality). But notice that we also have an obvious plausible mechanism as to how this could happen which makes a causal explanation more reasonable. Its not like I am saying that cancer causes smoking or something.

Notice that is is just as alarming if one thinks the causation goes the other way:

1) Lack of scientific knowledge makes one more susceptible to religion.

or

2) Religious background makes one less likely to learn science.


There make be a more subtle explanation but I wonder what explanation one could give that doesn't turn out to be embarrassing for religion.


Or

3) Something that has been hereto unidentified had an impact on both.
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Re: science and reliion again but a new twist

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Tarski,

As an educator I am surprised you don't imply a responsibility for the educators, biologists and scientists themselves rather than a simplistic pan off onto believers. I have to admit that biologists and evolution educators have done an extremely poor job of teaching evolution. It doesn't have to be taught in a hyper and contra-religion manner but for decades it has. I insist blame be also given to a an extremely poor public relations skill set and a proper educating by those that should be teaching it.

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Re: science and reliion again but a new twist

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DrW wrote:Okay. That may not have come out exactly right. Let me start again.

I use a wireless key board. When the batteries get low, it will start dropping random letters from the text as I type.

This has been the cause of more than one typo, and somethimes they were on documents more important than message board posts.

So, I was being serious. I assumed that Tarski hit the g-key (can't type that without smiling now - thank you very much) and the g-signal from the g-key on his wireless keyboard didn't make it to the cpu.

Thank you.

Please carry on.

And I was kidding anyway.

You'll have to admit that it's rather ironic that the title of a thread designed to implicate believers of their stupidity has a mispelled word in it.

Yes. Please do carry on.
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