The Bikini: Gentlemen, get out your tools.

[_bcspace]

So a bikini, for example, does not enhance sexual attraction?

A bikini can be an attractive item of clothing. Just like skirts, shoes and shirts. What you think is up to you.

Amen to that!

Okay I get it. Attractiveness is just another tacit admission for sexual attraction in this case.
lol

[_Buffalo]

I'd be willing to bet most of you are lying that you don't think about sex at some point in this circumstance, either for an instant or for longer, it doesn't matter. But it is true that what one does with those thoughts is up to you. But that's not the point which is how much more temptation should one ad to the mix.

Sorry bc, I guess we're just not as much of a horndog as you. Are you one of those guys who leers at women as they walk by?

[_Buffalo]

Okay I get it. Attractiveness is just another tacit admission for sexual attraction in this case.
lol

bc, are you unable to find a women attractive without fantasizing about having sex with her?

[_bcspace]

I agree, I wouldn't be. So why do you engage in it?

bc is engaging, of course, in the rhetorical equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?"

What exactly do you get out of this disingenuous grandstanding, bc?

Most of the time, even when I disagree with you, I at least respect where you're coming from, but every so often, you throw integrity and honesty under the bus just so you can beat up on the apostates. It really is disappointing.

Runtu is just covering for his inability to parse what I said. When you're ready to answer how I might have abdicated my responsibility, let me know.

[_DarkHelmet]

I'd be willing to bet most of you are lying that you don't think about sex at some point in this circumstance, either for an instant or for longer, it doesn't matter. But it is true that what one does with those thoughts is up to you. But that's not the point which is how much more temptation should one ad to the mix

Obviously you think being around women in bikinis is potentially problematic for you. I'm starting to think maybe you should stay away from women in bikinis.

[_Buffalo]

I guess it goes to show, Mormonism really does have an infantalizing effect on its members.

[_Rambo]

Sure. But do you deny then that a bikini has no effect on sexual attraction?

It's not the bikini that has an effect its the women I am sexually attracted too.

I'd be willing to bet most of you are lying that you don't think about sex at some point in this circumstance, either for an instant or for longer, it doesn't matter. But it is true that what one does with those thoughts is up to you. But that's not the point which is how much more temptation should one ad to the mix.

Why is it wrong to be tempted by a beautiful women? Some items of clothing makes me more attracted to a girl but I don't see anything wrong with that. Everyone has there prefences on what kind of clothing turns a person on I guess. Looks like for you bikini's really turn you on a lot. That's cool as long as you aren't being to pervy about it.

[_Runtu]

No. Some people believe they can do what they want without having an effect.

No one here has said that.

Sure. But do you deny then that a bikini has no effect on sexual attraction?

Nope.

I'd be willing to bet most of you are lying that you don't think about sex at some point in this circumstance, either for an instant or for longer, it doesn't matter. But it is true that what one does with those thoughts is up to you. But that's not the point which is how much more temptation should one ad to the mix.

Ah, so that's the problem: you think about sex when you see a girl in a bikini. Is that a problem for you? If you don't do anything about that thought, does it matter that you thought about it for a millisecond? Should the person wearing the bikini be concerned that you thought about sex for a fleeting moment?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Do you think people should never dress in ways that might possibly make other people think of sex? Should the kid who has a summer job dressing in a Tigger costume at Disneyland feel responsible because some guy gets off on that? Where do you draw the line?

[_Runtu]

Runtu is just covering for his inability to parse what I said. When you're ready to answer how I might have abdicated my responsibility, let me know.

I've already explained that to you. When you blame someone else, even partially, for your own lustful thoughts and actions, you are abdicating responsibility.

Apparently, you get some strange satisfaction from misrepresenting my position and then sneering that I can't "parse" what you said. I thought better of you, but maybe I shouldn't have.

[_bcspace]

Obviously you think being around women in bikinis is potentially problematic for you. I'm starting to think maybe you should stay away from women in bikinis.

Methinks many of you do have a problem since you're denying the existence of sexual attraction. And most of you are apparently unable to come to terms with what might or might not be inappropriate, instead choosing to divert attention from the real issues. Okay by me. You've answered some questions about yourselves and your condition that I wasn't originally seeking for.