Schryver's Article Is Going To Be Published, Somewhere?

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Melchett wrote:If they do, would that really fit in with the Mormon values?


I have to confess that I had cynically assumed that the folks at MI took a fortuitous "out" by feigning umbrage at Will's behavior. I was not aware that moral turpitude was in fact considered a liability when publishing apologetics.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Melchett wrote:If they do, would that really fit in with the Mormon values?


I have to confess that I had cynically assumed that the folks at MI took a fortuitous "out" by feigning umbrage at Will's behavior. I was not aware that moral turpitude was in fact considered a liability when publishing apologetics.

The politics of personal destruction is not a moral litmus for NAMIRS, unless it appears directed primarily at a protected category like gender. Equal opportunity disparagers get published.
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sock puppet wrote:The politics of personal destruction is not a moral litmus for NAMIRS, unless it appears directed primarily at a protected category like gender. Equal opportunity disparagers get published.


You think they really cared about Schryver's sexism?
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Kishkumen wrote:
sock puppet wrote:The politics of personal destruction is not a moral litmus for NAMIRS, unless it appears directed primarily at a protected category like gender. Equal opportunity disparagers get published.


You think they really cared about Schryver's sexism?

The potential PR blowback from his sexism? Sure.
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From what I read in the thread, Will seemed to suggest that his behaviour was regarded as a good laugh with unnamed persons. A small slap on the wrist and a delay in publication. Any negative publicity could be dealt with "a storm in a teacup" and "upon mature reflection".

Good old boys together?
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sock puppet wrote:The potential PR blowback from his sexism? Sure.


Huh. Well, maybe you are right. I just assumed they figured out that his stuff sucked and didn't have the heart to tell him, so they found a convenient excuse in his inexplicable penchant for taking a dump in his own crib.
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Kishkumen wrote:
sock puppet wrote:The potential PR blowback from his sexism? Sure.


Huh. Well, maybe you are right. I just assumed they figured out that his stuff sucked and didn't have the heart to tell him, so they found a convenient excuse in his inexplicable penchant for taking a dump in his own crib.

That too.
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Melchett wrote:From what I read in the thread, Will seemed to suggest that his behaviour was regarded as a good laugh with unnamed persons. A small slap on the wrist and a delay in publication. Any negative publicity could be dealt with "a storm in a teacup" and "upon mature reflection".

Good old boys together?


Maybe I am too suspicious, but I think this is a real possibility. In the end, however, I am happy the book is coming out. The fact that the man is clearly a scallywag and a moral reprobate should in no way impede his success as an apologist. In some ways these qualities are a real plus for such an exercise.
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Kishkumen wrote: In the end, however, I am happy the book is coming out. The fact that the man is clearly a scallywag and a moral reprobate should in no way impede his success as an apologist. In some ways these qualities are a real plus for such an exercise.


I agree. Anything that is put out there regarding the Book of Abraham and the KEP is food for both sides.

Kishkumen wrote:The fact that the man is clearly a scallywag and a moral reprobate should in no way impede his success as an apologist. In some ways these qualities are a real plus for such an exercise.


A double edged sword. Yes, the man comes across with very un-LDS behaiour, yet at the same time very representative of the LDS attitude of the servile female. As I believe he said in MsJack's thread, 'no publicity is bad publicity', and that is fairly true. His postings here could generate a lot of interest in the press, drawing attention to his publication, but, is this the kind of attention that the church wants? Perhaps the MI are looking to spin this (if they are the ones publishing) to their greater good somehow.
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Melchett wrote:I agree. Anything that is put out there regarding the Book of Abraham and the KEP is food for both sides.


My interest in most apologetic and critical work on the Book of Abraham is for entertainment only, and Will is certainly a source of entertainment in sort of a train wreck reality show kind of way.

Kishkumen wrote:A double edged sword. Yes, the man comes across with very un-LDS behaiour, yet at the same time very representative of the LDS attitude of the servile female. As I believe he said in MsJack's thread, 'no publicity is bad publicity', and that is fairly true. His postings here could generate a lot of interest in the press, drawing attention to his publication, but, is this the kind of attention that the church wants? Perhaps the MI are looking to spin this (if they are the ones publishing) to their greater good somehow.


Indeed. Someone out there is looking for a Jesse Ventura of LDS apologetics and I think he is eminently qualified for that role. I wish him the greatest success. I can think of few things more gratifying than watching William Schryver become an apologetic celebrity to outshine the rest of the field and turn it into a real personal money-making enterprise. I see books, films, soundtracks, tours, paid lectures, the whole Megillah.
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