Blacks weren't allowed to pray in church

[_Morley]

Really? Refresh your memory. Here is Willy Law's quote:

Allright. One, give me one positive thing Brigham Young has said about blacks and your off the hook.

You're omitting his last request, which is typical.

My apologies. I was quoting the one I saw (and responded to).

That really was BY's best positive quote about blacks? Brigham Young has literally volumes of material. My Golly.

[_Darth J]

Maybe Brigham Young took it too literally that black people came from Ham, and that is why he thought they were unclean.

A thorough reformation is needed in regard to our eating and drinking, and on this point I will freely express myself, and shall be glad if the people will hear, believe and obey. If the people were willing to receive the true knowledge from heaven in regard to their diet they would cease eating swine's flesh. I know this as well as Moses knew it, and without putting it in a code of commandments. When I tell you that it is the will of the Lord to cease eating swine's flesh, very likely one will tell you that it is the will of the Lord to stop eating beef and mutton, and another that it is the will of the Lord to stop eating fowl and fish until the minds of the people become bewildered, so that they know not how to decide between right and wrong, truth and error.

Journal of Discourses 12:54-55

[_RayAgostini]

That really was BY's best positive quote about blacks? Brigham Young has literally volumes of material. My Golly.

Irrelevant to Willy Law's request:

Allright. One, give me one positive thing Brigham Young has said about blacks and your off the hook.

(Emphasis mine)

[_Darth J]

I bet many modern Latter-day Saints who are black find great comfort in knowing that the second prophet of the Restoration thought they should not be abused any more than a farmer would abuse his cow.

What a positive message!

[_RayAgostini]

This must mean that he thought that animals and human beings were equal.

If you were familiar with the Old Testament, you'd realise that this is also there. That God will hold humans guilty of animal abuse accountable.

Now go look up your Old Testament guide.

[_Morley]

That really was BY's best positive quote about blacks? Brigham Young has literally volumes of material. My Golly.

Irrelevant to Willy Law's request:

Allright. One, give me one positive thing Brigham Young has said about blacks and your off the hook.

(Emphasis mine)

But not an irrelevant question.

[_Melchett]

If the Government of the United States, in Congress assembled, had the right to pass an anti-polygamy bill, they had also the right to pass a law that slaves should not be abused as they have been; they had also a right to make a law that negroes should be used like human beings, and not worse than dumb brutes. For their abuse of that race, the whites will be cursed, unless they repent....I am neither an abolitionist nor a pro-slavery man. If I could have been influenced by private injury to choose one side in preference to the other, I should certainly be against the pro-slavery side of the question..

Journal of Discourses.

O/T, but this is where he also defends polygamy.


'Find fault with me because I have wives! They would corrupt every wife I have"

[_Darth J]

This must mean that he thought that animals and human beings were equal.

If you were familiar with the Old Testament, you'd realise that this is also there. That God will hold humans guilty of animal abuse accountable.

Now go look up your Old Testament guide.

Isn't it amazing how I would have thought to bring that up if I had not been aware of it?

Yea, all of these things are equal before the Lord, even the Master:







For so sayeth the Prophet, Brigham Young.

[_RayAgostini]

Isn't it amazing how I would have thought to bring that up if I had not been aware of it?

Yea, all of these things are equal before the Lord, even the Master:

You really are such a fool, and you're an obsessed anti-Mormon.

No doubt you'll have something negative to say about this, too:

LDS Malian Presidential Frontrunner to Speak at UVU.

[Guest]

There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had an estate before we came here, and were obedient; more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things their pre-existence received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less. . . . There were no neutrals in the war in Heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, and men receive rewards here based upon their actions there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits. Doctrines of Salvation, 1:61, 65-66

He has a way with words, doesn't he?