ajax18 wrote: When you consider the pay of Senators, CEOs, and men of equal stature to the Brethren in the corporate world, the stipend they receive is very modest.
Exactly what is that stipend? Do you even know or are you just making that up? I would like a number and a source before you make such a claim.
Yes, he's repeating platitudes that the Bretheren have spouted over the years to placate the murmuring masses questioning where their money goes. I suspect he also implicitly believes the statement the the Church doesn't have a paid clergy......
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
I wrote a letter to the First Presidency about tithing and commanded them to stand and read it at their next meeting.
I started off by saying I understand things are tough out there with the economy, and the Church is struggling along with everyone else.
I stated that even though I feel their pain, I will continue to not pay tithing.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Hasa Diga Eebowai wrote:Who needs a stipend when you have book sales?
Thanks,
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Great point! Even if they have nothing to say, you can count on them to cash in on Mormon celebrity by putting out book after book of platitudes (possibly ghost written).
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
I wonder how much the lower level General authorities or Mission Presidents made. If I can't ever be privy to that information, I'd at least like to know just how much money my zone leader got away with stealing instead of paying the utility bills during his year long tenure.
Yes, he's repeating platitudes that the Bretheren have spouted over the years to placate the murmuring masses questioning where their money goes.
To be fair to President Hinckley who I somewhat sarcastically quoted, at least he admitted that either the Church was everything it claimed to be, or the biggest fraud ever known to man. I always hated that, "Yeah but it's a great place to raise a family," apologetic line even more around tithing settlement time.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
The Church isn't going to be there for you if you hit a rough financial patch. They will ask you to sell your house if there is equity there, cash in your 401K, or move to smaller quarters first....been there...counseled people in that situation.
One Bishop wanted the poor to pay tithing even if it meant they had to get a food order. That is bass ackwards to me. Funny how self-reliance is only a core value when it doesn't interfere with tithing.