From My Informant: Did Brian Hauglid Betray Schryver?

[_Kishkumen]

Well, was it DavidBokovoy, David_Bokovoy, David Bokovoy, Bokovoy_David, or DavBok?

I advise you to reread his post more carefully.

[_Carton]

All right. I'll go ahead and admit that it was indeed David Bokovoy who was (along with Hauglid) originally identified in the "intel" I received. My thinking was that Will already had a vendetta against David, and thus there was no reason to toss more fuel on the fire, hence why I omitted his name from the OP. I often have to weight which "intel" to post and which to keep on the down-low, and this was the call I made this time.

In any event, I'll be waiting very patiently to hear Dr. Peterson, LifeOnaPlate, Simon Belmont, Pahoran, etc. tell me how I'm wrong, how I'm just making everything up, how my "informant" is a figment of my imagination, etc., etc.

Doctor Scratch,

Have you considered doing another year-end thing like your Top Ten Happenings?

I think something like Time magazine's "Person of the Year" would be great. Or "Mopologist of the Year". You could select the Mormon apologist who is most going against the offensive excesses of the past and working to improve the tone and direction of Mormon apologetics.

I vote for Hauglid and Bokovoy as Co-Mopologists of the Year for 2011. It took a lot of courage for them to do what they did, especially since Schryver seems to have many friends among the old guard at the MI, like Gee and his lunch buddies Peterson and Hoskisson. I think I also remember him talking about how Midgley is good buddies with him too. So Hauglid and Bokovoy were quite possibly taking a big chance by going against Schryver.

[_Droopy]

Though it has been a long time since I've heard from this particular informant, it seems that the recent fallout involving Will Schryver has brought this invaluable source of "intel" out of hibernation. Obviously, nothing as of yet has been forthcoming from the apologists on this matter, and any attempts to inquire into it at the ironically named Mormon Dialogue board has resulted in one banning after the next. MsJack has apparently corresponded with one of the Maxwell Institute apologists, but she refuses to reveal the identity of this person.

Still, we can assume certain things. For one thing, we know that Will had some rather staunch supporters in the form of people like Royal Skousen and Louis "The Emperor" Midgley. It's probably safe to assume that Drs. Peterson and Hoskisson supported Will's work, too. So who was on the "anti-Will" side of things?

According to my "informant," there were two key MDD/FAIR apologists who led the charge. One of these I will not name; the other, surprisingly, was apparently Brian Hauglid. Per my informant:

Hauglid and [deleted] are the ones who took the lead in taking the facts about Schryver to the heads at the MI and convinced them that publishing him would be a huge mistake....But...Hauglid was the main guy.

Wow! Hauglid has always seemed rather milquetoast and low-key, so these allegations come as quite a surprise to me. Based on what I was told, it seemed that two "factions" developed at the MI--the first being the "old school" Midgley types who would prefer to ignore Schryver's antics, and the other being a bit more attuned to the PR fallout that would likely follow in the wake of any publication. In any event, according to these allegations, it seems that Hauglid and this other apologist were pivotal in helping to make the facts of the matter known to key MI players---esp. M.I. Executive Director M. Gerald Bradford. According to the "intel," Bradford is the key person in terms of putting the kibbosh on Schryver's project.

As always, I want to throw in the usual caveat about treating all this with a grain of salt/healthy skepticism, etc. This particular "informant" has been quite reliable in the past, but apart from better confirmation of the details and facts, my advice is that readers treat the above w/ some skepticism. As I pointed out in my opening paragraph, the apologists have responded to inquiries into this matter with stone-cold silence and flagrant censorship. Thus, part of my motive in posting this "intel" is in the hopes that someone on the Mopologist side of the fence will step forward to offer up the other side of the story.

Scratch is back in action. This deserves an entirely new DSM entry:

Ex-Mormon Borderline Paranoid Delusion Deficit Disorder.

With whipped cream and a cherry on top.

[_Droopy]

Scratch evidently has something to hide, which is why he has conspired to keep his informant secret.

However, I am about to reveal the name of that informant. And, when you learn who it is, you may understand Scratch's need to cover it up.

His informant is his imaginary friend : Snuffleupagus.

Of course Scratch will deny this.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Oh, I thought it was a mentally unhinged Pookah.

[_Kishkumen]

Scratch is back in action.

This is a fairly old thread, Droops. I wouldn't take this as evidence that Scratch is "back in action." Try, rather, the more recent threads he has participated in.

[_Droopy]

Scratch is back in action.

This is a fairly old thread, Droops. I wouldn't take this as evidence that Scratch is "back in action." Try, rather, the more recent threads he has participated in.

Sorry, but I just couldn't help the "unhinged Pookah" remark.

[_Kishkumen]

Sorry, but I just couldn't help the "unhinged Pookah" remark.

I've been there.

[_Carton]

Sorry, but I just couldn't help the "unhinged Pookah" remark.

What the hell is an "unhinged Pookah"?

I still want to hear Doctor Scratch's feelings about possibly doing something like Time magazine's "Person of the Year", except for Mormon Apologists. Select the Mormon apologist who is sincerely doing the most to improve the tone and direction of Mormon apologetics. After a few years, it might end up being a very sought-after award and might even serve to steer Mopologetics into something worthwhile.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Sorry, but I just couldn't help the "unhinged Pookah" remark.

What the hell is an "unhinged Pookah"?

I still want to hear Doctor Scratch's feelings about possibly doing something like Time magazine's "Person of the Year", except for Mormon Apologists. Select the Mormon apologist who is sincerely doing the most to improve the tone and direction of Mormon apologetics. After a few years, it might end up being a very sought-after award and might even serve to steer Mopologetics into something worthwhile.

Hi there, Carton. I think this is a great idea, and I think that Bokovoy and Hauglid are both excellent nominees. Perhaps we should do a vote? Tis the season, after all. My own personal vote would be to give them both the award--co-winners, as it were.

[_Kishkumen]

Hi there, Carton. I think this is a great idea, and I think that Bokovoy and Hauglid are both excellent nominees. Perhaps we should do a vote? Tis the season, after all. My own personal vote would be to give them both the award--co-winners, as it were.

Perhaps a poll is in order.