RIP Christopher Hitchens

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_MrStakhanovite
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I wanna party with you Ray, I like this contrarian attitude. I imagine us drinking cheap liquor, cursing like sailors, and ranting about anything under the sun.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:I wanna party with you Ray, I like this contrarian attitude. I imagine us drinking cheap liquor, cursing like sailors, and ranting about anything under the sun.


Nothing wrong with that. I'll even buy you a few beers, and we could have a good old chat about the positive things we love about life. Then, when you get on the anti-Mormon rostrum, like some bitter old phart with endless grievances about Mormons, I'll tell you to shove your negativity up your logical ass.

Live, and let live, and get on with your lives instead of whining, bitching and moaning about Mormonism for the rest of your days.
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RayAgostini wrote:Live, and let live, and get on with your lives instead of whining, bitching and moaning about Mormonism for the rest of your days.


Yes, it's much preferable to get on with your life by whining about other peoples whining like Ray Does.
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RayAgostini wrote:Nothing wrong with that. I'll even buy you a few beers, and we could have a good old chat about the positive things we love about life. Then, when you get on the anti-Mormon rostrum, like some bitter old phart with endless grievances about Mormons, I'll tell you to shove your negativity up your logical ass.


Exactly, people don't hear that often enough.
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Stormy Waters wrote:Yes, it's much preferable to get on with your life by whining about other peoples whining like Ray Does.


In defense of Ray here, I think it's important to don't create an echo chamber where we all sit around and agree with each other.
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Ray, I'm sorry you're all worked up about this. You're perfectly welcome to think whatever you like about Christopher Hitchens. For my part, his death diminishes the world a little bit.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:
Stormy Waters wrote:Yes, it's much preferable to get on with your life by whining about other peoples whining like Ray Does.


In defense of Ray here, I think it's important to don't create an echo chamber where we all sit around and agree with each other.

Yeah, no crap. ;-)
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
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Sethbag wrote:Ray, I'm sorry you're all worked up about this. You're perfectly welcome to think whatever you like about Christopher Hitchens. For my part, his death diminishes the world a little bit.


Of course. If you share his "death is the end" philosophy, then I understand why you'd sing praises to him. No doubt his brain is now being eaten by earth worms, and his life was totally meaningless. Nothing at all.

Zip, zap, and he's gone. Might as well have said nothing. What was the bloody point of existing in the first place? To convince people that death is the end?

While I don't generally decry passive atheism, or agnosticism, pastors and preachers of atheism, like Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris, are just full of themselves as "guiding lights" to nowhere. A dead end. And they completely ignore all of the evidence contrary to their sacred and not to be challenged opinions, but they totally and comprehensively refuse to even consider it. And their dogma is swallowed by millions, who don't have the nerve to question them.
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And that is what he was, a destroyer of faith, just like Dawkins and Harris.


He was much more of a prolific writer than Harris and Dawkins, and a lot of his work had little or nothing to do with faith. His political commentary was always good. Why Orwell Matters is one of my favorite books on my shelf. His weekly column, Fighting Words, has been part of my routine for the last few years.

I'd say something about speaking ill of the dead, but Hitch would probably appreciate it: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... fraud.html

I'm really sad about this, not because Hitch was some kind of atheist hero, but because he was one of the best journalist writers alive.
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