How to make garments more desirable

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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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LDSToronto wrote:
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You, sir, just broke my brain.

H.


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A while ago, I suggested starting a catalog of LDS-appropriate intimate wear. It could be called "Victoria's Sacred." Maybe there should also be an LDS men's magazine with modestly clothed centerfolds. The "helpmeet of the month."
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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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Buffalo wrote:I'd be in favor of revising the bottom half to something like this: ...snip...

Hey Buff,

Stay tuned to my design thread because I have something coming. I have a couple of solutions for bottoms that still give LDS what they want and something the married couple/individual could benefit from.

Who knows, maybe COB/Beehive Clothing will hire me for a full-time position! Aaahhh, the glories of the fashion industry... To think I might stand a chance to be among the COB elite someday... I can almost taste the glory...
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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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zeezrom wrote:
Buffalo wrote:I'd be in favor of revising the bottom half to something like this: ...snip...

Hey Buff,

Stay tuned to my design thread because I have something coming. I have a couple of solutions for bottoms that still give LDS what they want and something the married couple/individual could benefit from.

Who knows, maybe COB/Beehive Clothing will hire me for a full-time position! Aaahhh, the glories of the fashion industry... To think I might stand a chance to be among the COB elite someday... I can almost taste the glory...


I think the board of directors at the COB will be greatly pleased if you're successful. Sexy revised G's = more sexy funtime = more future tithe payers for them.
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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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Buffalo wrote:I think the board of directors at the COB will be greatly pleased if you're successful. Sexy revised G's = more sexy funtime = more future tithe payers for them.

A little of my childhood fascination with Robby Bosco will be in it. I can't let the old memories die! They are like little, chubby babies shooting fiery darts of passion!

I used to make clothes in high school sort of in secret. Finally, I found a release for my inner passions.
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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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LDSToronto wrote:I'm not sure what makes a 'garment' a 'garment'. You know? Like, is it the markings? Or the style? The style has changed over the years, but (and I might be wrong) the markings have remained constant.

The marks used to be literally cut into the garment with a pair of scissors when one was first clothed with the garment in the temple. I've heard stories of people having the symbols cut into the garment and the temple worker accidentally cutting their skin. The "everyday wear" garments
had the symbols not just sewn in with a little stitch like they are now, but in an elaborately stitched cut.

The military garments (brown) that I wore back in the day still had the normal stitched symbols, and I was asked about them a few times when I was wearing them and had removed my BDU top, so the symbols were visible. Because it's not uncommon in the military for the top to be removed, say for working hard in hot weather, or pulling KP or whatever, the symbols would be exposed, so the church has further adapted the symbol marking for the military garments, and the symbols on the newer-generation tan military garments are just silk-screened in the proper locations, but on the inside of the garment, so that they are not visible by a person looking at someone wearing the garment with no top on. They now just look like a normal t-shirt to anyone else.
So....could a regular bra and panties be made into garments by adding the mark?

There was a letter from the FP a decade or two ago saying that the church did not want individuals making their own garments by sewing the symbols into ordinary t-shirts or whatever, regardless of how closely the style of the shirts matched the officially-produced garments of the time. Back in the olden days, however, people regularly made their own garments, especially the further away they were from traditional LDS distribution facilities. I've been told that official patterns were even available to facilitate people doing this. This is a thing of the past, however.

I would guess that the common membership would be aghast at the notion of an individual stitching temple garment symbols on a normal pair of bra and panties. It would at the least be considered heretical, possibly even blasphemous.
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The markings were cut into the garment for the MEN at the temple. The women were instructed to take theirs home and do it to the garment themselves.
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just me wrote:The markings were cut into the garment for the MEN at the temple. The women were instructed to take theirs home and do it to the garment themselves.

I did not know that. Thanks JM!
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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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Sethbag wrote:
just me wrote:The markings were cut into the garment for the MEN at the temple. The women were instructed to take theirs home and do it to the garment themselves.

I did not know that. Thanks JM!


I am pretty sure I learned it from Ann Eliza Webb's book, Wife No. 19. I thought it was interesting, too.
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Re: How to make garments more desirable

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café crema wrote:
Sleeveless blouses and dresses have been worn since the 1920's garments would certainly interfere with those. There is nothing immodest about this dress from the 1920's except is has no sleeves and so it is not appropriate to wear with garments.


Check this out. No problem wearing garments with these dresses.

http://sensibility.com/vintageimages/1930s/

http://womens-fashion.lovetoknow.com/Wo ... n_1940%27s

http://www.threadsintime.net/id2.html

Now of course, skin was present in most decades but as for style, the modest look was still prevalent and acceptable. Andm Mormon women would be right at home during those decades before the sexual revolution.
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