Chumps, I'll see ya around

[_mfbukowski]

Oh by the way, in case anyone thinks my link above is to the wrong thread- that post of mine I quoted was post 45, and this is LDS toronto's reply on post 51

mfb, what is the trailer park? PM me if it's not appropriate for this thread.

H.

Draw your own conclusions.

[_mfbukowski]

mfb,

God help me, I read through that thread, and you're right, there was no mention of ass-kicking, so I apologize for getting angry. I also reread the thread here in question, and I was reminded of the nastiness that got thrown my way there by a couple of LDS posters. That's probably what I was remembering.

Didn't see this- no problem. We all get hot under the collar and I often do as everyone knows. I have to just ignore it, but it's hard.

What is fascinating is how everyone jumps on it without ever even trying to get to the bottom of it. I see that again and again.

[_CaliforniaKid]

We will have to do that sometime!! But I suspect it would turn a lunch into a weekend or two.

:)

[_MCB]

MFB does have an open mind about letting people get out of LDS when they want.

As for his debate techniques, I learned a lot from him at CAF.

[_LDSToronto]

So, ya, mfbukowski, my road to apostasy started with your gloating. I guess I should thank you!

You were gone long before that. You were looking for an excuse. And you're more than welcome, I wish you well on your spiritual journey.

You still don't understand me very well I see.

Still mindreading I see.

H.

[_LDSToronto]

Well, I'm not lying, guys - but my memory may not be serving me with exactness. I received a PM with the message that mfbukowski was kicking ass over here; I assumed it was mfb himself, but since getting banned from posting/updating the MD&D board, I have only 9 messages in my inbox over there, and can't show proof.

You'll have to rely on my word, or count me as a liar. Your choice.

H.

[_Blixa]

for what it's worth, I think both Runtu and mfb are stand-up guys, and I'd love to chat about philosophy with them over lunch sometime. I think what we have here is a failure of communication.

I think what we have here is a declared intent to ignore followed by a failure to ignore.

[_Blixa]

Look, "postmodernism" doesn't even have a clear definition- it is more an attitude than anything.

lol.

[_mfbukowski]

Look, "postmodernism" doesn't even have a clear definition- it is more an attitude than anything.

lol.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/

Postmodernism
First published Fri Sep 30, 2005

That postmodernism is indefinable is a truism. However, it can be described as a set of critical, strategic and rhetorical practices employing concepts such as difference, repetition, the trace, the simulacrum, and hyperreality to destabilize other concepts such as presence, identity, historical progress, epistemic certainty, and the univocity of meaning....
Finally, I have included a summary of Habermas's critique of postmodernism, representing the main lines of discussion on both sides of the Atlantic. Habermas argues that postmodernism contradicts itself through self-reference, and notes that postmodernists presuppose concepts they otherwise seek to undermine, e.g., freedom, subjectivity, or creativity. He sees in this a rhetorical application of strategies employed by the artistic avant-garde of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, an avant-garde that is possible only because modernity separates artistic values from science and politics in the first place. On his view, postmodernism is an illicit aestheticization of knowledge and public discourse. Against this, Habermas seeks to rehabilitate modern reason as a system of procedural rules for achieving consensus and agreement among communicating subjects. Insofar as postmodernism introduces aesthetic playfulness and subversion into science and politics, he resists it in the name of a modernity moving toward completion rather than self-transformation.

[_Blixa]

Even Habermas would not claim it to be merely an "attitude" more than anything. Glad to see you can source an encyclopedia. Had you read and understood that entry you would have had no need for the side show you conducted with runtu as he attempted to spoon feed you a watered down version of that.