MsJack wrote:just me doesn't need your advice on how to be Mormon. That was my point. If she feels that not speaking up on controversial topics in class is the best way to manage her beliefs and the practice thereof, that's her call and you're no one to tell her otherwise.
Damn straight. Everyone needs to find their own way through life, and it's not up to why me or anyone else to tell others the "right way" for them.
Runtu wrote: Damn straight. Everyone needs to find their own way through life, and it's not up to why me or anyone else to tell others the "right way" for them.
But isn't Mormonism about being told by others the right way to live life?
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
DarkHelmet wrote:But isn't Mormonism about being told by others the right way to live life?
It is for a lot of people, I think. But then, I'm convinced that even those who really do think it's a "one size fits all" religion still choose their own path. Nobody does everything or believes everything by the book.
MsJack wrote:just me doesn't need your advice on how to be Mormon. That was my point. If she feels that not speaking up on controversial topics in class is the best way to manage her beliefs and the practice thereof, that's her call and you're no one to tell her otherwise. .
Just me sits quietly in class thinking just how stupid it all sounds, keeps quiet about issues she has a different take on and then comes here to post her mockings. Is that managing one's beliefs or is it being a hypocrite. Here is the point: all know my position within the church, especially in my ward and with my friends. I am no coward or hypocrite. And I have no fear and I have never beend disciplined or had an invite into the bishops office.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
DarkHelmet wrote: But isn't Mormonism about being told by others the right way to live life?
If this was the case, I would be hearing it all the time. No Mormon ever told me how to do life. I have been free as a bird to live my life the way I want to.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:Just me sits quietly in class thinking just how stupid it all sounds, keeps quiet about issues she has a different take on and then comes here to post her mockings. Is that managing one's beliefs or is it being a hypocrite. Here is the point: all know my position within the church, especially in my ward and with my friends. I am no coward or hypocrite. And I have no fear and I have never beend disciplined or had an invite into the bishops office.
So, she should, what, just come out with it and tell her family and friends exactly what she's thinking, the hell with the consequences to her life and theirs? You are out of your freaking mind.
why me wrote: Why me, I think you're overreacting just a tad. It's a pretty simple letter, and it simply explains the situation in which he found himself. He doesn't share the information that damaged his testimony or try and lead others out of the Church. .
Maybe but I have been down this road before last year. I heard it all from the critics a year ago about this guy and how brave he is etc, etc.
Now one year later I am on the same road hearing the same old wow isn't he brave! There are many bishops in the church. Some leave the faith. No big deal. Most don't make a blog about it. And maybe those that do want recogition. But in the scheme of things, it is no big deal for a bishop to leave the church.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
So, she should, what, just come out with it and tell her family and friends exactly what she's thinking, the hell with the consequences to her life and theirs? You are out of your freaking mind.
She can make a comment in class if she thinks that she has something to add that may cause people to think. I have done this for 30 plus years. And I never had a problem. But it did create discussion and it still does.
The same would hold true for the former bishop.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
DarkHelmet wrote: But isn't Mormonism about being told by others the right way to live life?
If this was the case, I would be hearing it all the time. No Mormon ever told me how to do life. I have been free as a bird to live my life the way I want to.
I'm sure being an inactive jack Mormon might have had something to do with that. Call me crazy.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
why me wrote:There are many bishops in the church. Some leave the faith. No big deal. Most don't make a blog about it. And maybe those that do want recogition. But in the scheme of things, it is no big deal for a bishop to leave the church.
Maybe, like many ex-Mormons, he feels like he was lied to by the Church and wants to sound a warning to others that are considering joining. His blog may not be about "fame". Maybe it's something he feels he needs to do out of good conscience.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.