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Yes, Jesus is indeed Mormon as the LDS Church is the Heavenly Church restored back to earth from the Universal Apostasy.

For example, can Mormons show us where Christ ever taught:

1.) the Jesus-Satan brotherhood
2.) polygamy
3.) polytheism
4.) That God the Father is a mere demigod
5.) Adam is God
6.) That men can become Gods, just as all Gods before them did
7.) That men become Gods by, in part, learning secret handshakes and passwords and participating in 17th century revisions of ancient Babylonian initiation rites?


We can eliminate 3 right off the bat since the LDS Church does not teach polytheism; rather we teach the plurality of Gods just like the Bible and the early Orthodox Christians did. We can eliminate 4; have no idea what you are talking about here. We can also eliminate 5 right off the bat since the LDS Church does not, nor has it ever, taught that Adam is God the Father. It has been shown that BY actually proposed an Adam Sr/Adam Jr hypothesis (also not doctrinal).

As for the rest, your first problem is that the Bible itself does not claim to be the only and complete word of God, therefore, it is intellectually dishonest to expect all Christian (LDS are the only body of Christ by the way) doctrine to be contained in the Bible. Rather, the Bible teaches that continuing and modern revelation via prophets and the Church organization is the way doctrine is revealed and disseminated and the Bible also refers to other works of scripture which are no longer extant but from which the early Orthodox Christians referred.

Nevertheless, all you mentioned and which applies can be found directly or implicitly in the Bible as well in the teachings of the early Orthodox Christians (the esoteric rites being far older than the 17th century A.D.

1) Is Jesus a spirit? Yes. Is Satan a spirit? Yes. (Standard EV doctrine). Are the angels spirits? Yes (Hebrews 1:14). Are we spirits? Yes (James 2:26). Did God create all spirits? Yes. Therefore, we, the angels, Jesus, and even Satan (who was an angel who fell from heaven) are all spirit brothers and sisters just as the LDS Church teaches.

2)Plural marriage: Here is a verse set which has David being reprimanded for his sin with Bath-Sheba. The Lord says through the prophet Nathan that He it was who gave David his wives (plural) in the first place and if he had wanted more, he should have asked first. 2 Samuel 12:7-11.

3)Plurality of Gods:

Gen 1:26 "And God said, let us make man in our image..." The Creator (Jesus Christ, not the Father as per Hebrews 1:3) is speaking to another God(s).

Gen 3:22 "Behold the man is become as one of us..."

Exodus 20:3-4 The first two of the Ten Commandments. The first commandment says not to have any other real and divine Gods (check your Hebrew Lexicon on "gods" in verse 3). The second commandment says not to have any idol gods (check your Hebrew Lexicon on "graven image" in verse 4). What this means is that other real and divine Gods exist but it also shows that we are to worship only one of them (not polytheism). If the Plurality of Gods doctrine were false, then there is no need for the first commandment making only nine commandments in all.

Deuteronomy 32:8-9 NEB The Hebrews distinguished between the Gods EL (The Most High God) and Jehovah (The Lord, who is Jesus Christ) p.107

"When the Most High [EL] parceled out the nations, when he dispersed all mankind, he laid down the boundaries of every people according to the number of the sons of God; but the LORD's [Yahweh's] share was his own people, Jacob was his allotted portion. Deuteronomy 32:8-9

There are many other Old Testament verses that make that same distinction.

Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is called God and Father BUT John 20:17 Jesus is NOT God THE Father

John 1:1 Jesus is God. BUT John 20:17 Jesus has a God

John 7:16 Jesus said the doctrine was not his but the Father's. If the trinity hypothesis is true, then the doctrine would also be Jesus'.

Matthew 6:9 Jesus said (present tense) to pray to the Father in heaven. Not to himself (he was on the earth at the time).

Matthew 24:36 Only the Father knows when Jesus will come again.

John 17:11, 20-22 The ONLY Bible verse that describes how the Three are "one" and "in each other. One in purpose only.

1 Cor 15:27-28
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Hebrews 1:3 Jesus' Godhood is an exact copy or replica of the Father's Godhood (check your Greek Lexicon for "express image" in that verse).

Hence, while the trinity hypothesis DOES state that the Three are separate individual Persons, the Bible contradicts the trinity hypothesis saying that their "Godhood's" (Being, nature or essence of Gods) are separate and not the same.

Hebrews 1:8 God the Father (a God) refers to Jesus Christ as a God (another God)

1 Corinthians 8:4-6 While there are idols AND real divine Gods, to us there is God the Father AND the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. See Exodus 20:3-4 above...

Rev 1:5-6 KJV (and other versions as well) Jesus has made us kings and priests unto God AND his Father.
See also Ephesians 1:17

The early Orthodox Christians were insistent on the plurality of Gods as well. I'll spare you from that embarrassment for now unless you really want it. The trinity doctrine would have been heresy to them. Not even Tertullian or Theophilus were trinitarian but they do represent the changing doctrines leading to the Bible predicted Universal Apostasy of the early Christian Church.

6) Theosis. The Deification of man:

John 10: 34-36 (Ps. 82: 1-8) We are divine gods already
Acts 17: 28-29 We are the same type of being as God.
Romans 8: 17 We will inherit everything God has.
2 Corinthians 3: 18 We will have the same image and glory as God.
Galatians 4: 7 We are heirs of God through Christ.
Philippians 2:5-6 We are to think that we can be equal with God.
Philippians 3:21 We will have the same kind of body as God.
1 John 3: 2 We will be just like God.
Revelation 3: 21 We will have the same power and authority as God.

"Men are Gods and Gods are men."
Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor 3:1


"We have not been made Gods from the beginning, but at first merely men, then at length Gods..."
Irenaeus, Against Heresies 4:38:4, in ANF 1:522

"...our Lord Jesus Christ, who did, through His transcendent love, became what we are, that He might bring us to be even what He is Himself."
Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5: Preface, in ANF 1:526

All men are deemed worthy of becoming gods, and even of having power to become sons of the Highest.
Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho 124, in ANF 1:262

"we assert that not by their communion merely with Him, but by their unity and intermixture, they received the highest powers, and after participating in His divinity, were changed into God."
Origen, Against Celsus 3:41

God "made man for that purpose, that from men they may become Gods."
Jerome, The Homilies of Saint Jerome, vol. 1 (FC 48), translated by M.L. Ewald, 106

"For as Christ died and was exalted as man, so, as man, is He said to take what, as God, He ever had, that even such a grant of grace might reach to us. For the Word was not impaired in receiving a body, that He should seek to receive a grace, but rather He deified that which He put on, and more than that, gave it graciously to the race of man."
Athanasius, Discourses Against the Arians 1:42, in NPNF Series 2, 4:330-331

Orthodox Christians "taught that the destiny of man was to become like God, and even to become deified"
Prestige, God in Patristic Thought, 73

"One can think what one wants of this doctrine of progressive deification, but one thing is certain: with this anthropology Joseph Smith is closer to the view of man held by the Ancient Church than the precursors of the Augustinian doctrine of original sin were, who considered the thought of such a substantial connection between God and man as the heresy, par excellence."
Benz, E.W., Imago Dei: Man in the Image of God, in Madsen, ed., Reflections on Mormonism, 215-216

7) Before you try to get a primer on the esoteric rites, consider now the fact that you are not really a Christian (because your doctrine is far different from the Bible) and that the esoteric (temple) rites are closed to such. That the early Orthodox Christians had those same rites is evident by the fact that they preserved them from unbelievers like you, just like the LDS Church does:

And Peter said: "We remember that our Lord and Teacher, commanding us, said, 'Keep the mysteries for me and the sons of my house.' Wherefore also He explained to His disciples privately the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. But to you who do battle with us, and examine into nothing else but our statements, whether they be true or false, it would be impious to state the hidden truths."
Clementine Homilies 19:20, in ANF 8:336

"For the most sublime truths are best honoured by means of silence."
Peter, in Clementine Recognitions 1:23, in ANF 8:83

But if he remains wrapped up and polluted in those sins which are manisfestly such, it does not become me to speak to him at all of the more secret and more sacred things of divine knowledge, but rather to protest and confront him, that he cease from sin, and cleanse his actions from vice.
Peter, in Clementine Recognitions 2:4, in ANF 8:98

"Nothing is more difficult, my brethren, than to reason concerning the truth in the presence of a mixed multitude of people. For that which is may not be spoken to all as it is, on account of those who hear wickedly and treacherously; yet it is not proper to deceive, on account of those of those who desire to hear the truth sincerely. What, then, shall he do who has to address a mixed multitude? Shall he conceal what is true? How, then, shall he instruct those who are worthy? But if he set forth pure truth to those who do not desire to obtain salvation, he does injury to Him by whom he has been sent, and from whom he has received commandment not to throw the pearls of His words before swine and dogs, who, striving against them with arguments and sophisms, roll them in the rand of carnal understanding, and by their barkings and base answers break and weary the preachers of God's word. Wherefore I also, for the most part, by using a certain circumlocution, endeavour to avoid publishing the chief knowledge concerning the Supreme Divinity to unworthy ears."
Clementine Recognitions 3:1, in ANF 8:117

Origen differentiated between the pagan mysteries and the Christian mysteries in that Christians required that one be purified from evil for a period of time before being introduced to them:
Origen, Against Celsus 3:60, in ANF 4:488

Tertullian chided certain heretics for making the higher teachings available to everyone (pearls before swine type of thing): Tertullian, Prescription Against Heretics 41, in ANF 3:263

Lactantius lamented that the necessary Christian silence regarding the mysteries of the Kingdom engendered suspicion and rumors:
Lactantius, Divine Institutes 7:26, in ANF 7:221

As late as the 4th century, Basil confirmed there was a strong unwritten and secret tradition that originated with the Apostles: Basil of Caesarea, Treatise De Spiritu Sancto 27, in NPNF Series 2, 8:40-41
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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Blixa wrote:No kidding. He still hasn't realized that the majority of the those responding to his arrogant shouting are not even Mormons. Still, he blithely yammers on in ignorance, calling everyone who answers him a Mormon, or, even more condescendingly, a "girl." (He's repeatedly misunderstood Corpsegrinder's avatar as suggestive of his gender, hence his "start acting like a big girl" nastiness to him.)


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BrianH wrote:Obviously, Jesus' earthly life ended nearly 2,000 years before Mormonism appeared on the earth.


Sorry, pal, but it is not at all obvious to me that there was a man named Jesus on the earth 2,000 years ago who had divine powers. Please provide non-biblical references that Jesus was who you would claim him to be, namely the:

BrianH wrote:Lord Jesus Christ



BrianH wrote:While not all Mormons personally believe each of these supposedly "restored" doctrines, they most certainly ARE (or at least were) part of the "restored" gospel claimed by the Mormon church.


Can you please show official doctrinal statements from the LDS church that claim each of the points you've made?

BrianH wrote:What you must do, if you want to meet the challenge here is to tell us WHY we should think that what you believe is actually TRUE.


Why is that the challenge? Why would any Mormon care about your opinion of their belief?

This is the stupidest goddammed challenge I've ever heard of in my life.

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By the way, BrianH, your original post shows a gross misunderstanding of what the LDS believe with respect to dispensations of the gospel and modern revelation.

Just sayin', you might want to read up.

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bcspace wrote:Yes, Jesus is indeed Mormon as the LDS Church is the Heavenly Church restored back to earth from the Universal Apostasy.

For example, can Mormons show us where Christ ever taught:

1.) the Jesus-Satan brotherhood
2.) polygamy
3.) polytheism
4.) That God the Father is a mere demigod
5.) Adam is God
6.) That men can become Gods, just as all Gods before them did
7.) That men become Gods by, in part, learning secret handshakes and passwords and participating in 17th century revisions of ancient Babylonian initiation rites?


We can eliminate 3 right off the bat since the LDS Church does not teach polytheism; rather we teach the plurality of Gods just like the Bible and the early Orthodox Christians did. We can eliminate 4; have no idea what you are talking about here. We can also eliminate 5 right off the bat since the LDS Church does not, nor has it ever, taught that Adam is God the Father. It has been shown that BY actually proposed an Adam Sr/Adam Jr hypothesis (also not doctrinal).

As for the rest, your first problem is that the Bible itself does not claim to be the only and complete word of God, therefore, it is intellectually dishonest to expect all Christian (LDS are the only body of Christ by the way) doctrine to be contained in the Bible. Rather, the Bible teaches that continuing and modern revelation via prophets and the Church organization is the way doctrine is revealed and disseminated and the Bible also refers to other works of scripture which are no longer extant but from which the early Orthodox Christians referred.

Nevertheless, all you mentioned and which applies can be found directly or implicitly in the Bible as well in the teachings of the early Orthodox Christians (the esoteric rites being far older than the 17th century A.D.

1) Is Jesus a spirit? Yes. Is Satan a spirit? Yes. (Standard EV doctrine). Are the angels spirits? Yes (Hebrews 1:14). Are we spirits? Yes (James 2:26). Did God create all spirits? Yes. Therefore, we, the angels, Jesus, and even Satan (who was an angel who fell from heaven) are all spirit brothers and sisters just as the LDS Church teaches.

2)Plural marriage: Here is a verse set which has David being reprimanded for his sin with Bath-Sheba. The Lord says through the prophet Nathan that He it was who gave David his wives (plural) in the first place and if he had wanted more, he should have asked first. 2 Samuel 12:7-11.

3)Plurality of Gods:

Gen 1:26 "And God said, let us make man in our image..." The Creator (Jesus Christ, not the Father as per Hebrews 1:3) is speaking to another God(s).

Gen 3:22 "Behold the man is become as one of us..."

Exodus 20:3-4 The first two of the Ten Commandments. The first commandment says not to have any other real and divine Gods (check your Hebrew Lexicon on "gods" in verse 3). The second commandment says not to have any idol gods (check your Hebrew Lexicon on "graven image" in verse 4). What this means is that other real and divine Gods exist but it also shows that we are to worship only one of them (not polytheism). If the Plurality of Gods doctrine were false, then there is no need for the first commandment making only nine commandments in all.

Deuteronomy 32:8-9 NEB The Hebrews distinguished between the Gods EL (The Most High God) and Jehovah (The Lord, who is Jesus Christ) p.107

"When the Most High [EL] parceled out the nations, when he dispersed all mankind, he laid down the boundaries of every people according to the number of the sons of God; but the LORD's [Yahweh's] share was his own people, Jacob was his allotted portion. Deuteronomy 32:8-9

There are many other Old Testament verses that make that same distinction.

Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is called God and Father BUT John 20:17 Jesus is NOT God THE Father

John 1:1 Jesus is God. BUT John 20:17 Jesus has a God

John 7:16 Jesus said the doctrine was not his but the Father's. If the trinity hypothesis is true, then the doctrine would also be Jesus'.

Matthew 6:9 Jesus said (present tense) to pray to the Father in heaven. Not to himself (he was on the earth at the time).

Matthew 24:36 Only the Father knows when Jesus will come again.

John 17:11, 20-22 The ONLY Bible verse that describes how the Three are "one" and "in each other. One in purpose only.

1 Cor 15:27-28
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Hebrews 1:3 Jesus' Godhood is an exact copy or replica of the Father's Godhood (check your Greek Lexicon for "express image" in that verse).

Hence, while the trinity hypothesis DOES state that the Three are separate individual Persons, the Bible contradicts the trinity hypothesis saying that their "Godhood's" (Being, nature or essence of Gods) are separate and not the same.

Hebrews 1:8 God the Father (a God) refers to Jesus Christ as a God (another God)

1 Corinthians 8:4-6 While there are idols AND real divine Gods, to us there is God the Father AND the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. See Exodus 20:3-4 above...

Rev 1:5-6 KJV (and other versions as well) Jesus has made us kings and priests unto God AND his Father.
See also Ephesians 1:17

The early Orthodox Christians were insistent on the plurality of Gods as well. I'll spare you from that embarrassment for now unless you really want it. The trinity doctrine would have been heresy to them. Not even Tertullian or Theophilus were trinitarian but they do represent the changing doctrines leading to the Bible predicted Universal Apostasy of the early Christian Church.

6) Theosis. The Deification of man:

John 10: 34-36 (Ps. 82: 1-8) We are divine gods already
Acts 17: 28-29 We are the same type of being as God.
Romans 8: 17 We will inherit everything God has.
2 Corinthians 3: 18 We will have the same image and glory as God.
Galatians 4: 7 We are heirs of God through Christ.
Philippians 2:5-6 We are to think that we can be equal with God.
Philippians 3:21 We will have the same kind of body as God.
1 John 3: 2 We will be just like God.
Revelation 3: 21 We will have the same power and authority as God.

"Men are Gods and Gods are men."
Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor 3:1


"We have not been made Gods from the beginning, but at first merely men, then at length Gods..."
Irenaeus, Against Heresies 4:38:4, in ANF 1:522

"...our Lord Jesus Christ, who did, through His transcendent love, became what we are, that He might bring us to be even what He is Himself."
Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5: Preface, in ANF 1:526

All men are deemed worthy of becoming gods, and even of having power to become sons of the Highest.
Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho 124, in ANF 1:262

"we assert that not by their communion merely with Him, but by their unity and intermixture, they received the highest powers, and after participating in His divinity, were changed into God."
Origen, Against Celsus 3:41

God "made man for that purpose, that from men they may become Gods."
Jerome, The Homilies of Saint Jerome, vol. 1 (FC 48), translated by M.L. Ewald, 106

"For as Christ died and was exalted as man, so, as man, is He said to take what, as God, He ever had, that even such a grant of grace might reach to us. For the Word was not impaired in receiving a body, that He should seek to receive a grace, but rather He deified that which He put on, and more than that, gave it graciously to the race of man."
Athanasius, Discourses Against the Arians 1:42, in NPNF Series 2, 4:330-331

Orthodox Christians "taught that the destiny of man was to become like God, and even to become deified"
Prestige, God in Patristic Thought, 73

"One can think what one wants of this doctrine of progressive deification, but one thing is certain: with this anthropology Joseph Smith is closer to the view of man held by the Ancient Church than the precursors of the Augustinian doctrine of original sin were, who considered the thought of such a substantial connection between God and man as the heresy, par excellence."
Benz, E.W., Imago Dei: Man in the Image of God, in Madsen, ed., Reflections on Mormonism, 215-216

7) Before you try to get a primer on the esoteric rites, consider now the fact that you are not really a Christian (because your doctrine is far different from the Bible) and that the esoteric (temple) rites are closed to such. That the early Orthodox Christians had those same rites is evident by the fact that they preserved them from unbelievers like you, just like the LDS Church does:

And Peter said: "We remember that our Lord and Teacher, commanding us, said, 'Keep the mysteries for me and the sons of my house.' Wherefore also He explained to His disciples privately the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. But to you who do battle with us, and examine into nothing else but our statements, whether they be true or false, it would be impious to state the hidden truths."
Clementine Homilies 19:20, in ANF 8:336

"For the most sublime truths are best honoured by means of silence."
Peter, in Clementine Recognitions 1:23, in ANF 8:83

But if he remains wrapped up and polluted in those sins which are manisfestly such, it does not become me to speak to him at all of the more secret and more sacred things of divine knowledge, but rather to protest and confront him, that he cease from sin, and cleanse his actions from vice.
Peter, in Clementine Recognitions 2:4, in ANF 8:98

"Nothing is more difficult, my brethren, than to reason concerning the truth in the presence of a mixed multitude of people. For that which is may not be spoken to all as it is, on account of those who hear wickedly and treacherously; yet it is not proper to deceive, on account of those of those who desire to hear the truth sincerely. What, then, shall he do who has to address a mixed multitude? Shall he conceal what is true? How, then, shall he instruct those who are worthy? But if he set forth pure truth to those who do not desire to obtain salvation, he does injury to Him by whom he has been sent, and from whom he has received commandment not to throw the pearls of His words before swine and dogs, who, striving against them with arguments and sophisms, roll them in the rand of carnal understanding, and by their barkings and base answers break and weary the preachers of God's word. Wherefore I also, for the most part, by using a certain circumlocution, endeavour to avoid publishing the chief knowledge concerning the Supreme Divinity to unworthy ears."
Clementine Recognitions 3:1, in ANF 8:117

Origen differentiated between the pagan mysteries and the Christian mysteries in that Christians required that one be purified from evil for a period of time before being introduced to them:
Origen, Against Celsus 3:60, in ANF 4:488

Tertullian chided certain heretics for making the higher teachings available to everyone (pearls before swine type of thing): Tertullian, Prescription Against Heretics 41, in ANF 3:263

Lactantius lamented that the necessary Christian silence regarding the mysteries of the Kingdom engendered suspicion and rumors:
Lactantius, Divine Institutes 7:26, in ANF 7:221

As late as the 4th century, Basil confirmed there was a strong unwritten and secret tradition that originated with the Apostles: Basil of Caesarea, Treatise De Spiritu Sancto 27, in NPNF Series 2, 8:40-41


Nice work, BCSpace.

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Let's break this down real simple like.

Jesus was a JEW.

End of discussion.
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BrianH wrote:
Corpsegrinder wrote:Jesus said he did. To Joseph Smith. It’s in writing.

You’re telling us you’re gonna argue with Jesus?

...too easy.

Too easy for you do show that you have failed to understand the issue I have raised.

Look, I know you are, for whatever personal reason, virtually compelled to break in and cat call and try to divert any discussion here. But please do your best to begin acting like a big girl and either get involved in this discussion like a responsible adult (you ...ARE an adult, right?), or ...get lost.

Your childish disruptions and jeering represent you as something I hope you do not want to be.

-BH

edited by harmony: this post is why this thread is dropped into Terrestial.

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Welcome to the Terrestrial Kingdom, you hooligan.

Your challenge: “show us some reasons to think that Jesus ever really DID teach the various doctrines I listed above, which they attribute to him every time they claim to have "restored" his gospel with the doctrines of their organization.”

I answered your challenge by directing your attention to the body of scripture which Mormons believe was revealed to Joseph Smith by Jesus Christ, via the Holy Ghost. These scriptures constitute the “reasons” you requested in said challenge.

Now let me ask you a question in return: On what basis do you reject the spiritual phenomena documented in Mormon scripture while embracing that of the Bible? Seems like a double standard, at least to me.
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Hi, Blixa!
Blixa wrote:He's repeatedly misunderstood Corpsegrinder's avatar as suggestive of his gender...

What can I say...sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don't.
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Runtu wrote:I believe there is a name for this: "Schryver-Thews Syndrome."

How's it hangin', Runtu?
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Re: Was Jesus a Mormon?

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LDSToronto wrote:By the way, BrianH, your original post shows a gross misunderstanding of what the LDS believe with respect to dispensations of the gospel and modern revelation.

Just sayin', you might want to read up.

H.


Fallacy: empty assertion.

Your post is not worth any more response than that.

-BH

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