Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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Here is what Primary children are taught about this topic.

Heavenly Father and Jesus love every person who asks to be healed, but sometimes people are not healed even when they are administered to. Some are not healed because Heavenly Father knows they can become stronger people by learning to live with their sickness or disability.(Primary 2: Lesson 16)


And this is what Oaks said in a Conference talk in 2010.

From all of this we learn that even the servants of the Lord, exercising His divine power in a circumstance where there is sufficient faith to be healed, cannot give a priesthood blessing that will cause a person to be healed if that healing is not the will of the Lord.


So, my dads blessing didn't work because God wants him to stay sick.
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Drifting wrote:
And this is what Oaks said in a Conference talk in 2010.

From all of this we learn that even the servants of the Lord, exercising His divine power in a circumstance where there is sufficient faith to be healed, cannot give a priesthood blessing that will cause a person to be healed if that healing is not the will of the Lord.




I think what you will find is that the Lord's will is often lined up with the capabilities of modern medicine.

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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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What makes you think they don't work? Perhaps because you see little practical value in faith? Perhaps you expect something different than what a blessing can give?

Prayer, laughter, faith... all intangibles that have been proven to help patients.
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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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harmony wrote:What makes you think they don't work? Perhaps because you see little practical value in faith? Perhaps you expect something different than what a blessing can give?

Prayer, laughter, faith... all intangibles that have been proven to help patients.


Harmony, I'm talking about the Priesthood Blessing using consecrated oil that is specifically given to heal the sick. So when the person remains sick after the blessing I take that to show that it hasn't worked.
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"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level."
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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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Drifting wrote:My parents are relatively old and over the seasonal period fell ill.

When speaking to my mother on the phone she explained that the missionaries had called round the previous evening to give them both a blessing. She went on to explain that she was immediately calmed and felt much better the following day and how marvellous blessings were.

I asked how dad was.

Mother explained he was feeling a bit worse.

Hmmm.....I asked if she had taken medication last night, she had. I asked if dad had, no, he hadn't.

I gently suggested that perhaps the improvement in her condition was not due to the blessing but more to do with the drugs. Well, she said, blessings work better in conjunction with medicine.

Unbelievable.



Update to the story.
Just rang again to see how they are.
Dad still very rough but now on medication so starting to improve.
Mum gotten worse. I asked if the deterioration was a sign her blessing was wearing off? No she said, it was because she had stopped taking the drugs thinking her blessing had healed her and it was a lesson that God requires effort on your part for the blessing to work I.e. taking the drugs.

Priesthood Blessings are nonsense.
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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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Most of the ones I've been involved with seem to work. One would think that over time and considering how many I've been involved with the success rate would be reduced to 50/50. Not referring to standard "get well" blessings either, serious conditions only.
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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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Drifting wrote:Here is what Primary children are taught about this topic.

Heavenly Father and Jesus love every person who asks to be healed, but sometimes people are not healed even when they are administered to. Some are not healed because Heavenly Father knows they can become stronger people by learning to live with their sickness or disability.(Primary 2: Lesson 16)


And this is what Oaks said in a Conference talk in 2010.

From all of this we learn that even the servants of the Lord, exercising His divine power in a circumstance where there is sufficient faith to be healed, cannot give a priesthood blessing that will cause a person to be healed if that healing is not the will of the Lord.


So, my dads blessing didn't work because God wants him to stay sick.
Nice.

This exemplifies how the Church covers all the bases and makes its supernatural claims unfalsifiable.

It's god's will, after all. No matter how f*'d up the situation is.
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bcspace wrote:Most of the ones I've been involved with seem to work. One would think that over time and considering how many I've been involved with the success rate would be reduced to 50/50. Not referring to standard "get well" blessings either, serious conditions only.


Would you mind citing a number of cases in which you saw the priesthood cure diseases that were not curable by conventional means?

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Re: Why don't Priesthood blessings work?

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bcspace wrote:Most of the ones I've been involved with seem to work. One would think that over time and considering how many I've been involved with the success rate would be reduced to 50/50. Not referring to standard "get well" blessings either, serious conditions only.


Probably because the odds they were going to recover were better then 50/50 to begin with, even if the condition was serious.
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