Honor thy father and thy mother

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Honor thy father and thy mother

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It's one of the 10 Commandments, dates all the way back to Moses and Mt Sinai.

So what gives with the way many TBMs treat their inactive/apostate parents?

I've seen first-hand many instances, but the most obvious is the way my self-pious, Mormon sister treats our mother. Usually reducing mom to tears with the mistreatment she dishes out on our mother during the weekly telephone calls they have. My sister instructs her own, adult children not to call their grandmother on holidays or her birthday, as one example.

I do not see this type of treatment of non-believing parents by those that actively participate in other religions, so why is it quite common among Mormons?

I suspect many defenders here will cite that they've not witnessed it--but my sister puts on the act of the loving, dutiful daughter if there happens to be another TBM to witness it. It's like taking a Mormon fishing with you, better take two of them so the one doesn't drink all your beer. So I do not doubt your perception and sincerity in claiming that you've not seen it--that's part and parcel to my point, you've not seen it because those TBMs that treat their parents this way do not want you to see it. Those of us that they've given up on, those TBMs don't care what we see, or don't know the parent is related how they are treated by the TBM child to us. As a hopeless apostate, TBMs do not mind allowing me to see how they mistreat their inactive/apostate parents.
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I think your sister is an outlier, at least I hope so. I do know a few people like that, but that kind of crap is, thankfully, not that common.

If it were me, I'd call her on it. Let her know that what she is doing is absolutely wrong, and she needs to repent. And if it were my mother, I'd have a long talk with her about not putting up with crap from her kids.
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Runtu wrote:I think your sister is an outlier, at least I hope so. I do know a few people like that, but that kind of crap is, thankfully, not that common.

If it were me, I'd call her on it. Let her know that what she is doing is absolutely wrong, and she needs to repent. And if it were my mother, I'd have a long talk with her about not putting up with crap from her kids.


Amen, Runtu!

Sock Puppet, if my sister tried to pull that kind of crap with my parents, I would read her the riot act! WTF? Who died and made her Chief Judge? This really makes me angry.
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SP,

I'm on the other side of the coin. My FIL wrote my sisters in law telling them I have betrayed the whole family and he stopped communicating with my wife since we left.

On my side, I can tell I have deeply grieved my parents by no longer believing. My parents came here to visit us and were appalled that we didn't plan to say the prayer before dinner. My dad asked if he could say it and then he noticed my two little ones bolted for the back door as soon as the word "prayer" was mentioned. He caused a big scene in front of my cousins family by yelling at my boys then proceeding to continue demanding that they bow their heads and whatnot. It dragged on for a while. I was taught to respect my parents but I didn't feel like respecting them at that moment.
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liz3564 wrote:
Runtu wrote:I think your sister is an outlier, at least I hope so. I do know a few people like that, but that kind of crap is, thankfully, not that common.

If it were me, I'd call her on it. Let her know that what she is doing is absolutely wrong, and she needs to repent. And if it were my mother, I'd have a long talk with her about not putting up with crap from her kids.


Amen, Runtu!

Sock Puppet, if my sister tried to pull that kind of crap with my parents, I would read her the riot act! WTF? Who died and made her Chief Judge? This really makes me angry.

She thinks her TR is evidence of her Chief Judgeship, that and her calling as Relief Society Pres.
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zeezrom wrote:SP,

I'm on the other side of the coin. My FIL wrote my sisters in law telling them I have betrayed the whole family and he stopped communicating with Dear Wife since we left.

On my side, I can tell I have deeply grieved my parents by no longer believing. My parents came here to visit us and were appalled that we didn't plan to say the prayer before dinner. My dad asked if he could say it and then he noticed my two little ones bolted for the back door as soon as the word "prayer" was mentioned. He caused a big scene in front of my cousins family by yelling at my boys then proceeding to continue demanding that they bow their heads and whatnot. It dragged on for a while. I was taught to respect my parents but I didn't feel like respecting them at that moment.

Even though your father disrespected you in your home, with your family, and you did not feel like respecting your parents at that moment, I'm betting you held your tongue, in respect for them. You are that kind of a person, zeezrom.
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sock puppet wrote:She thinks her TR is evidence of her Chief Judgeship.


Someone needs to tell her she's wrong.
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Remember, you can be blessed to live with these judgemental family members forever.....
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Runtu wrote:I think your sister is an outlier, at least I hope so. I do know a few people like that, but that kind of crap is, thankfully, not that common.

Maybe my community (in the heart of Zion, though it is) is the outlier. I only know first-hand of about a dozen situations in which the parents are inactive/apostates but have adult children that are TBMs. Of that dozen, clearly nine fall in the category of my mother's treatment by my sister, two are treated as well as what I see adult TBMs treat their TBM parents, and one I'd have to say is a toss-up.

Maybe this dynamic is just endemic to this community. But, among the TBM children of those nine and my sister, I've witnessed situations where the treatment is appreciably better, almost 180 degrees different if there are other TBMs present.
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sock puppet wrote:Maybe my community (in the heart of Zion, though it is) is the outlier. I only know first-hand of about a dozen situations in which the parents are inactive/apostates but have adult children that are TBMs. Of that dozen, clearly nine fall in the category of my mother's treatment by my sister, two are treated as well as what I see adult TBMs treat their TBM parents, and one I'd have to say is a toss-up.

Maybe this dynamic is just endemic to this community. But, among the TBM children of those nine and my sister, I've witnessed situations where the treatment is appreciably better, almost 180 degrees different if there are other TBMs present.


Hearing this kind of stuff makes me very grateful for my family.
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