Sounds like the Borg to me.
No thanks.
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The Kingdom of Jesus
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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_zeezrom
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
Liz,
If every person obeyed Heavenly Father with exactness... Every living being... Billions upon billions of people...
This would be heaven?
No, this would be a giant computer with lots of robots.
If every person obeyed Heavenly Father with exactness... Every living being... Billions upon billions of people...
This would be heaven?
No, this would be a giant computer with lots of robots.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
The Holy Sacrament.
The Holy Sacrament.
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
zeezrom wrote:Liz,
If every person obeyed Heavenly Father with exactness... Every living being... Billions upon billions of people...
This would be heaven?
No, this would be a giant computer with lots of robots.
I disagree. I disagree for the very reason that we are NOT computers. We are NOT robots. Wouldn't you enjoy living in a world where you could basically take the good of what you have now, but eliminate the bad? Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. I would enjoy being able to enjoy my family and work, but not have to worry about murderers, thieves, wars, etc.
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
Liz,
The problem is, we can't all agree on what is good and what is bad. I *certainly* don't want to see everything HF thinks is good come to pass.
The problem is, we can't all agree on what is good and what is bad. I *certainly* don't want to see everything HF thinks is good come to pass.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
The Holy Sacrament.
The Holy Sacrament.
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
liz3564 wrote:zeezrom wrote:Liz,
If every person obeyed Heavenly Father with exactness... Every living being... Billions upon billions of people...
This would be heaven?
No, this would be a giant computer with lots of robots.
I disagree. I disagree for the very reason that we are NOT computers. We are NOT robots. Wouldn't you enjoy living in a world where you could basically take the good of what you have now, but eliminate the bad? Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. I would enjoy being able to enjoy my family and work, but not have to worry about murderers, thieves, wars, etc.
Liz, God designed the plan to include murderers, thieves, wars etc.
This is the world God created and you don't like it.
What makes you think you'll like the heaven He's created?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
Hoops wrote:Well, since people are born neither good nor evil, with a perfect administration of the world, which one would expect with Jesus as King, then it should be pretty easy for folks to behave themselves.
What's the problem?
No external law or rule or policy can ever stop a man from getting angry and offing the bloke who cut him off in traffic.
I suspect Jesus will be just as unsuccessful, short of exercising some type of free-will-removing power.
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level."
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"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
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~ Ernest Becker
"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
LDSToronto wrote:I suspect Jesus will be just as unsuccessful, short of exercising some type of free-will-removing power.
H.
Or outlawing automobiles.
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
LDSToronto wrote:No external law or rule or policy can ever stop a man from getting angry and offing the bloke who cut him off in traffic.
I suspect Jesus will be just as unsuccessful, short of exercising some type of free-will-removing power.
H.
I think that's the problem: the notion that evil/sin can be eliminated (by binding Satan, for example) suggests that evil is something external to humans. It's not.
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consiglieri wrote:LDSToronto wrote:I suspect Jesus will be just as unsuccessful, short of exercising some type of free-will-removing power.
H.
Or outlawing automobiles.
No hand-waving cracka is taking way my GTO in the CK!
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level."
~ Ernest Becker
"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
~ Simone de Beauvoir
~ Ernest Becker
"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
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Re: The Kingdom of Jesus
LDSToronto wrote:
No external law or rule or policy can ever stop a man from getting angry and offing the bloke who cut him off in traffic.
I suspect Jesus will be just as unsuccessful, short of exercising some type of free-will-removing power.
H.
Now you're starting to get the born again experience.