A Wish for Priesthood Blessings that Work

[_why me]

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/high_blo ... cle_em.htm

However if he took heart medication and forgot, that would certainly cause a problem. When people are in such situations when they see someone like in this story, they react in various of ways usually through shock. The people involved thought that they did the right thing and brother involved did not say call an ambulance. We never know how we react when confronted by an emergency.

The point is to learn from the story and not condemn people for their reaction. And if the ldstoronto's wife called the police, what can the police do against the men? Arrest them for not reacting how they should?

[_Drifting]

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/high_blood_sugar_hyperglycemia/article_em.htm

However if he took heart medication and forgot, that would certainly cause a problem. When people are in such situations when they see someone like in this story, they react in various of ways usually through shock. The people involved thought that they did the right thing and brother involved did not say call an ambulance. We never know how we react when confronted by an emergency.

The point is to learn from the story and not condemn people for their reaction.

No the point is that Priesthood Blessings are supposed to work.
When they don't members are supposed to believe that's because God wants them to learn from the suffering.
The problem is that Mormon Priesthood Holders are conditioned to believe that their Priesthood power is significantly more effective than medical help. This is demonstrably wrong and, as has been shown by LDST, a life endangering belief.
Every single person I know who isn't a Mormon would react to a medical emergency by calling or involving medical experts as quickly as possible.

When there's a national disaster or incident do you see people calling for emergency Priesthood help or emergency medical help? Do you believe it's more important to call for Priesthood help in such circumstances (because the Church teaches that you should)? If you were having a stroke who would you want stood over you - your Home Teachers with a phial of oil or a trained Docotor or Paramedic with medical equipment?

[_RayAgostini]

I think one of the reasons Priesthood blessings "work" less and less in the Mormon Church is because we have come to believe they will "work" less and less.

At no point was this more clearly manifest than during a talk by Elder Eyring during a recent conference, when he related being called to a man's house to give him a blessing.

The man was dying of cancer and virtually bedridden, but when Elder Eyring arrived, this man was lying in his bed completely dressed for work, including a tie and coat, and even his shoes on.

Elder Eyring asked why he was dressed that way, and the man replied, "Because after you give me the blessing, I am going to get up and go to work."

The problem with this story is that this was not used as a manifestation of the dying man's faith that would be rewarded with a miraculous healing, but rather it was a laugh line.

More troubling, the people at the conference center immediately recognized it as such and dutifully chuckled.

Elder Eyring confirmed this was a laugh line by finishing the story with the seemingly inevitable fact that the man died of cancer.

I honestly don't know what message Elder Eyring was trying to convey with this story, but the point seemed clear to me, "Don't expect miraculous healings when you receive (or give) priesthood blessings or you will end up being a punch line in a general conference talk."

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

P.S. I posted this at the end of a thread that is now at the bottom of the page and wanted to see what people think.

I don't think it'll be long before Consig declares himself atheist. Just roll with his posts, and wait for the punchline. It's total appetising bait for a place like this, and he's sucking it up as much as he can.

Goodonya, Consig. Keep spreading the word, and keep contributing to making posters here so critical, that they think "spiritual experiences" are only for "deluded people".

You're doing a fine job of it, so far.

[_Drifting]

I think one of the reasons Priesthood blessings "work" less and less in the Mormon Church is because we have come to believe they will "work" less and less.

At no point was this more clearly manifest than during a talk by Elder Eyring during a recent conference, when he related being called to a man's house to give him a blessing.

The man was dying of cancer and virtually bedridden, but when Elder Eyring arrived, this man was lying in his bed completely dressed for work, including a tie and coat, and even his shoes on.

Elder Eyring asked why he was dressed that way, and the man replied, "Because after you give me the blessing, I am going to get up and go to work."

The problem with this story is that this was not used as a manifestation of the dying man's faith that would be rewarded with a miraculous healing, but rather it was a laugh line.

More troubling, the people at the conference center immediately recognized it as such and dutifully chuckled.

Elder Eyring confirmed this was a laugh line by finishing the story with the seemingly inevitable fact that the man died of cancer.

I honestly don't know what message Elder Eyring was trying to convey with this story, but the point seemed clear to me, "Don't expect miraculous healings when you receive (or give) priesthood blessings or you will end up being a punch line in a general conference talk."

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

P.S. I posted this at the end of a thread that is now at the bottom of the page and wanted to see what people think.

I don't think it'll be long before Consig declares himself atheist. Just roll with his posts, and wait for the punchline. It's total appetising bait for a place like this, and he's sucking it up as much as he can.

Goodonya, Consig. Keep spreading the word, and keep contributing to making posters here so critical, that they think "spiritual experiences" are only for "deluded people".

You're doing a fine job of it, so far.

Ray, can you point out the 'spiritual experience' part of the story Eyring related?
Thanks

[_RayAgostini]

Ray, can you point out the 'spiritual experience' part of the story Eyring related?
Thanks

What would convince you? Is it worth it? Even if I pointed this out, you wouldn't believe it. Not falling into this trap, because I know this place too well. It's a virtual cemetery of the spiritually dead and immune to anything contrary to The Gospel of Reason.

[_Drifting]

Ray, can you point out the 'spiritual experience' part of the story Eyring related?
Thanks

What would convince you? Is it worth it? Even if I pointed this out, you wouldn't believe it. Not falling into this trap, because I know this place too well. It's a virtual cemetery of the spiritually dead and immune to anything contrary to The Gospel of Reason.

LOL
I figured you wouldn't be able to...

[_RayAgostini]

LOL
I figured you wouldn't be able to...

That's my point. Here, against steadfast unbelievers, even in God, I "wouldn't be able to".

Now you have a happy 2012. And enjoy the delusion of "reality".

Tarski should be able to offer you a hand in becoming more hardened to anything that opposes your dogma.

[_why me]

I don't think it'll be long before Consig declares himself atheist. Just roll with his posts, and wait for the punchline. It's total appetising bait for a place like this, and he's sucking it up as much as he can.

Goodonya, Consig. Keep spreading the word, and keep contributing to making posters here so critical, that they think "spiritual experiences" are only for "deluded people".

You're doing a fine job of it, so far.

I challenged him earlier on a different thread but some quasi LDS members defended him because they still think that he is prolds. But his agenda is so clear....He has been heading this way ever since he was released as sunday school teacher after a few years of teaching it.

[_why me]

Ray, can you point out the 'spiritual experience' part of the story Eyring related?
Thanks

I need a link to the talk.

[Guest]

LOL
I figured you wouldn't be able to...

That's my point. Here, against steadfast unbelievers, even in God, I "wouldn't be able to".

Now you have a happy 2012. And enjoy the delusion of "reality".

Tarski should be able to offer you a hand in becoming more hardened to anything that opposes your dogma.

Still waiting Ray, still waiting...

Let's try a different question.
Do you believe, as the Church teaches, that Priesthood blessings can literally cure and heal the sick and afflicted?

What is your explanation for the reason that most, if not virtually all Priesthood blessings don't work?