If Lucy Walker had refused Joseph Smith

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
_why me
_Emeritus
Posts: 9589
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:19 pm

Re: If Lucy Walker had refused Joseph Smith

Post by _why me »

liz3564 wrote:
zeezrom wrote:I've heard people say that if Joseph Smith didn't play around with the womenfolk, he wouldn't have been killed. Maybe God stirred up anger in the hearts of the men who shot at him and eventually killed him.


I believe there is truth in this.


Not quite. Maybe satan stirred up the hearts but not god. Joseph Smith was a marked man from the first moment the Book of Mormon came off the press. The protestants couldn't accept him and they couldn't accept that book.

The press was extremely negative of joseph from the very beginning. And words can kill.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
Joseph Smith


We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith
_Buffalo
_Emeritus
Posts: 12064
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:33 pm

Re: If Lucy Walker had refused Joseph Smith

Post by _Buffalo »

why me wrote:
Not quite. Maybe satan stirred up the hearts but not god. Joseph Smith was a marked man from the first moment the Book of Mormon came off the press. The protestants couldn't accept him and they couldn't accept that book.

The press was extremely negative of joseph from the very beginning. And words can kill.


Maybe if Joseph hadn't spat on the constitution, he wouldn't have been arrested, and he'd have been safe from mobs.

And actually Joseph got a lot of positive press in the early days of Nauvoo. Before they knew what he was really about.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
_Runtu
_Emeritus
Posts: 16721
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:06 am

Re: If Lucy Walker had refused Joseph Smith

Post by _Runtu »

Buffalo wrote:Maybe if Joseph hadn't spat on the constitution, he wouldn't have been arrested, and he'd have been safe from mobs.

And actually Joseph got a lot of positive press in the early days of Nauvoo. Before they knew what he was really about.


Blaming it on Satan is too easy. There were a lot of factors, mostly political, involved. The way the Nauvoo Charter was implemented antagonized a lot of people, making them feel that Nauvoo was a refuge for criminals, who couldn't be touched by outside authorities. And rumors of the Council of Fifty and Danites frightened the neighbors. The destruction of the press seemed to confirm for a lot of people that Joseph Smith was operating outside the law, whether that's a fair statement or not.

People don't generally get riled up about nothing. In my view, polygamy was not one of the main causes for hostility to Joseph and his church. It just happened that polygamy was the catalyst for the destruction of the press.
Runtu's Rincón

If you just talk, I find that your mouth comes out with stuff. -- Karl Pilkington
_harmony
_Emeritus
Posts: 18195
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

Re: If Lucy Walker had refused Joseph Smith

Post by _harmony »

why me wrote: Lucy never regretted her plural marriage to Joseph.


You don't know this. Personally, I'm sure she regretted it every day of the rest of her life.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Post Reply