Is it bad that I hope Romney wins?

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Re: Is it bad that I hope Romney wins?

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richardMdBorn wrote:What a stupid argument that is. Voting fraud in Chicago is pervasive.


Is it a stupid argument that because there is fraud in Chicago, the nation-wide presidential election is poisoned by cheating Obama-supporters?
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richardMdBorn wrote:]What a stupid argument that is.


You aware you're the person with the insane conspiracy theories whose brain appears to be broken on the subject of politics, right? In any case, the fact that voter fraud through misrepresented identity is almost never caught even with the entire voting roll examined by independent analysis is, in fact, a sign that voter fraud is not terribly common. It's like you think people aren't looking for it. And, on an aside, if there was mass fraud where literally near everyone was getting away with it, it would be at a level of sophistication that voter ID laws would do little to stop. Case in point: In the year prior to the WI voter ID law being passed, there were 7 validated cases of voter fraud. (7!) Of those seven, guess how many could have been stopped with the new regulations? That's right, zero.

It's very apparent that the voter ID law was part of the Walker plan's multi-pronged approach to reducing Democratic voter turnout. Even if you were oblivious to this nationally coordinated effort, the attempt to shut down and relocate DMV's in a gerrymandering like fashion was a pants down moment. In Texas, the law allowed for concealed carry permits as a valid form of ID, but not university ID's, which is hilarious. But let's say that wasn't apparent and this really was about stamping out fraud. If that were the case, you don't want the burden your policy causes to eliminate fraud to overwhelm the benefit it provides. It would take a whole heck of a lot of fraud to be worth the increased burden on the electorate to turn out and vote. (Otherwise, why not require retinal scans and blood samples?) When the bill was passed, around 80% of young black men on the state did not have driver's licenses. That's a big deal.
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By the way, I'm aware of one of the rare instances of voter fraud that has occurred in WI. Several years ago, I encouraged my downstairs neighbor to vote. She had never done so before, but my persuasive skills were on that day, because she decided to go for it.

I didn't know this part at the time, but, she did not have her ID on her and she didn't think to bring any acceptable form of identification. She did, however, have her slightly older sister's ID on her which she used to get into the bars. They looked very similar. Since her sister never votes either, she thought what the heck? and voted under her sister's name.

It just so happens that her sister had picked that election to start voting too. She was back in her home town voting.

So, later I learned from her this happened: Not too long after the election, some guys in black suits showed up to her door. They identified themselves as secret service. She was taken away for questioning. That was an ordeal for her, but the short of it is she received an eight hundred dollar fine and probation in a quick plea deal.
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EAllusion wrote:In Texas, the law allowed for concealed carry permits as a valid form of ID, but not university ID's, which is hilarious.


They could balance this out by allowing medical marijuana cards to count as valid ID. And beard permits (at BYU).
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Blixa wrote:liz. I'm shell shocked.

She was the nadir of American politics and that's saying a lot. A LOT.


Truly. She has the crazy eyes.

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I do believe that Mitt Romney is going to get the GOP Nomination for President.
As for Mitt Romney actually going to become President, I don't know yet.
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Brackite wrote:I do believe that Mitt Romney is going to get the GOP Nomination for President.
As for Mitt Romney actually going to become President, I don't know yet.


I agree that Mitt will probably get the nomination. I have serious doubts that he can win the Presidency. He's not in the same political league as Obama. Even less than John McCain was.
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Quasimodo wrote:
Brackite wrote:I do believe that Mitt Romney is going to get the GOP Nomination for President.
As for Mitt Romney actually going to become President, I don't know yet.


I agree that Mitt will probably get the nomination. I have serious doubts that he can win the Presidency. He's not in the same political league as Obama. Even less than John McCain was.

I disagree. I think that as long as Romney doesn't make a stupid move in who he picks for his running mate, he has a really good chance at winning. For the economy's sake, I hope he does.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Except that there is no reason to believe Romney knows how to create jobs....

I agree with this. I think Romney would be a good wonk of a manager to fix Medicare, Medicaid, the Defense Department, the tax code, Social Security, and general governmental inefficiency. But I seriously doubt he has the integrity to stand up to Republican special-interest groups and the leadership required to reach across the aisle and get it done.

The economy is an entirely different matter. Just because Romney knows how to make money in business doesn’t mean he knows what to do as president that would cause jobs to exist for everybody who wants one.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Except that there is no reason to believe Romney knows how to create jobs....



Analytics wrote:I agree with this. I think Romney would be a good wonk of a manager to fix Medicare, Medicaid, the Defense Department, the tax code, Social Security, and general governmental inefficiency. But I seriously doubt he has the integrity to stand up to Republican special-interest groups and the leadership required to reach across the aisle and get it done.

The economy is an entirely different matter. Just because Romney knows how to make money in business doesn’t mean he knows what to do as president that would cause jobs to exist for everybody who wants one.


Romney has experience in analyzing businesses that may be good investments as well as working on companies that may require turn around work. This requires a skill set of understanding business, business finance, management of businesses and growing businesses. All of these things are elements of business growth and thus job creation. It also takes into account an understanding of at least basis economic forces and issue because risk is a large element of such business activity and economics impacts risk assessments.

I have a client that is a venture capital company. They have a knack for picking good businesses that with an infusion of capital can grow to the next level. These people are very astute business men and are able to engage with the current management of companies they invest in in such a way to grow the company which, guess what, results in more jobs in many cases. This is exactly what Bain did.

As for your last comment I don't think anyone in this world is capable of what to do to cause jobs to exist for everyone who wants one. Who has ever done that? Who can ever do that?
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