Joseph Antley wrote:mikuu wrote:How is it known that Joseph thought he could find lost objects and that the gift came from God?
Joseph Smith apparently had the reputation, but what Joseph
himself thought is less clear. He apparently was confident enough in his abilities to accompany Josiah Stowell to Pennsylvania in 1826. His family certainly believed in him. Joseph Smith’s father is reported to have stated that his son’s ability to see treasure with a seer-stone was a “wonderful power which God had…miraculously given him.”
For those interested, I just
posted about seer-stones on my blog and will make at least two more related posts over the coming week.
Joseph, in your blog you come close to admitting the truth, but fail to address the key issues. For example:
Simply put, historically a “seer-stone” — as the name implies — was a rock through which someone was able to “see” something.
What you fail to acknowledge here is
what Joseph Smith claimed to "see" through his seer stone(s), which were evil treasure guardians. "Something" could imply a lost horse, which may seem harmless to one who didn't know the entire history, but to see evil in an attempt to appease evil to obtain treasure was what they (seer stones) were used for.
Most of the Book of Mormon seems to have been translated with Joseph’s single stone as well, although the lost 116 pages were likely done with the Nephite “interpreters.”
In the above, if you replace "Most" with "All" and remove "seems to have been"and replace it with "was" it would remove confusion, as not one word of the published Book of Mormon was done using the Nephite interpreters. The only thing I can read between the lines is the "confusion" regarding whether it was done using the white or brown seer stone.
In your blog, it would also be extremely honest of you to admit that the LDS church has both stones in their possession, and that Hyrum Smith used "Urim and Thummim" to describe Joseph Smith's seer stones in 1843.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths