MrStakhanovite wrote:I dunno Bot, I must be in the minority here, but I think when someone is talking about what happened in their life, they can use the words "I" and "me".
The essential qualification for being an anti-Christian.
MrStakhanovite wrote:Wow, I guess we can chalk Augustine up to being an anti-Christian
Joseph Smith used the reference "I" 56 times in his address at Nauvoo in History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 408-409. I guess he was never a Christian, either.
MrStakhanovite wrote:Wow, I guess we can chalk Augustine up to being an anti-Christian
Joseph Smith used the reference "I" 56 times in his address at Nauvoo in History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 408-409. I guess he was never a Christian, either.
I can forgive him, given his repeated references to Jesus Christ in his sermons.
But John McLay judges success by the number of people who admire him.
Yahoo Bot wrote:Actually, I do. Forgive me if I follow Pelagius.
That doesn't make any sense Bot, you need a strong concept of the self, and need to have a self centered (not a bad thing) view of responsbility to jive with Pelagian views of Grace. This whole idea of saying the word "Christ" more than the words "I"and "me" doesn't fit with Mormon nor Pelagian views of regeneration.
Yahoo Bot wrote: I can forgive him, given his repeated references to Jesus Christ in his sermons.
Yes, Joseph refers to Jesus here too.
“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam... Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.” (History of The Church, 6:408–409.)
Yahoo Bot wrote: I can forgive him, given his repeated references to Jesus Christ in his sermons.
But John McLay judges success by the number of people who admire him.
I suspect John McLay gave thousands of lessons and sermons wherein he referred to Jesus Christ. I don't know how you could teach institute and seminary without doing so.