liz3564 wrote:Droopy, how many gay people do you actually know? My personal experience, with actual people more closely resembles Runtu's. I have two very close friends in the gay community. One in NC, who is a voice student, and another friend who I have known since grammar school. Both men are currenty in long-term, committed relationships, and were very opposed to the bar scenes, etc.
When you can give me real life experience, rather than just extreme right wing rhetoric, maybe we can have an actual discussion.
the data seems to support that while heterosexual relationships are not perfect, same-sex relationships between men are not a "committed" as anecdotes would try to portray.
Women have much better statistics on that topic.
Conveying the "exception" as opposed to the rule is not sufficient to negate the rule.
Besides, the fundamental issue is not the bar scene or any occurrences of promiscuity. The LGBT relationship issue is one of basic biology and basic decency.
1.Biological - not compatible with the survival of the human species due to inability to procreate. If it were an inheritable trait, or immutable, it would have been "naturally selected" out of the gene pool due to the inability to pass the gene to subsequent generations. This likely means the cause is from genetic deformation or psychological.
2. Decency - no socially redeeming value to an LGBT relationship, it holds no virtue for the collective society. This same society relies on continued procreation for its existence. The human race is not immortal. The moral standard is typically to permit that which contributes to the well-being and continued existence of the society. The LGBT lifestyle does neither.
Fundamentally we see these ideas manifest is the family. All the evidence concludes that the best environment for a child is one that contains loving and capable parents, both of whom are the natural parents of the child. There is no debate over this notion, it is fact, it is proven, and it is preferred.
Yes, there are many successful children raised in single parent homes, same-sex homes, foster homes, orphanages....but many many children do not receive the same benefit as those mentioned prior (exception, not the rule). There is a difference between good-enough and best possible.
Our society strives for the latter and rewards those who share that idea, thus we see marriage as an institution to reward and encourage that virtue.
This simple concept permeates our culture and our very existence. This family is not a cultural construct but a biological and spiritual imperative.
The LGBT intends to erode this virtue in the name of a cause founded on self-indulgence and self-centered behavior - Yes, there a good people who are LGBT, but ultimately their choice is not good for society.
