ldsfaqs wrote:Those of African Lineage "black or white" not using the Temple is simply a "restriction", a policy.
If it was segregation they would have had "their own" Temple,
Thank you, ldsfaqs, for reminding us that the policies of the One True Church of Jesus Christ were even less equitable than the Jim Crow laws of the American South.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
bcspace wrote:Huntsman is trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's distanced himself from the Church and yet basks in anything positive that may come from his being associated with the Church.
by the way, he may still be on the records of the Church as a member, but he certainly is not LDS in belief or deed.
He sounds like a mopologist.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Of the 14 million members on record, using your definition of who the real Mormons are, how many real Mormons are there in the world? 500? 1000?
Judging from belief and action, the number is immediately cut to 30% of 14 million as that is the number (anecdotal from my own experience) of temple recommend holders or members of those households.
After that, you have to find out how many of those are Democrats or other political liberals. In my neck of the woods which is 95% LDS (and not in Utah), voter records showed for the 2008 election, about 3500 votes for McCain and about 500 for Obama. Negligible for everyone else though perhaps 50 votes for the Constitution party which as far as I can tell, like the GOP, does not conflict with LDS doctrine.
Problem is, we don't really know how many of those are TR holders and active in the Church. But factoring in that percentage as if they were (assuming they are most likely to vote), perhaps 18% of LDS in the USA or 18% in high percentage LDS areas are "real" members.
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matthew 7:14
For religious people, it's not enough to try and believe in their stories and try to live a happy life based on those stories. They also have seemingly an intrinsic need to gloat, judge, condemn, and otherwise interfere with the lives of other people. Your post is a perfect example of this sentiment. Instead of saying something like, "Oh, God will judge who is a true LDS person and who is not. The scriptures command us not to judge, and I know that there are a lot of good people out there that aren't active currently in the LDS church." That's what I would have said when I believed in Mormonism. That's what most of the more likable Mormons I've ever known would say about it. I find your response off putting.
"Joseph Smith was called as a prophet, dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb" -South Park
keithb wrote: For religious people, it's not enough to try and believe in their stories and try to live a happy life based on those stories. They also have seemingly an intrinsic need to gloat, judge, condemn, and otherwise interfere with the lives of other people. Your post is a perfect example of this sentiment. Instead of saying something like, "Oh, God will judge who is a true LDS person and who is not. The scriptures command us not to judge, and I know that there are a lot of good people out there that aren't active currently in the LDS church." That's what I would have said when I believed in Mormonism. That's what most of the more likable Mormons I've ever known would say about it. I find your response off putting.
Yep, insecurity. Often, religious people need to castigate the unbelievers to shore up their own beliefs. Fending off their own deep doubts about what they believe. The louder they complain, the more powerful their doubts.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
ldsfaqs wrote:Those of African Lineage "black or white" not using the Temple is simply a "restriction", a policy.
If it was segregation they would have had "their own" Temple,
Thank you, ldsfaqs, for reminding us that the policies of the One True Church of Jesus Christ were even less equitable than the Jim Crow laws of the American South.
You are an idiot..... Men and Women are not the same, but that doesn't equate to some "injustice". There was no "injustice" when Christ denied the Gospel to be taught to non-Jews save the couple of exceptions. There was no "injustice" when ONLY the Tribe of Aaron could have the Priesthood. There is no "injustice" simply because men can't bear children. There is no "injustice" because women are not as strong as men.
A restriction for God's purposes is not even equivalent to the Evils of Jim Crow laws. You're trying to equivocate the two as being the same, in that Mormonism was worse betrays YOUR OWN BIOTRY.......
"Socialism is Rape and Capitalism is consensual sex" - Ben Shapiro
ldsfaqs wrote: You are an idiot..... Men and Women are not the same, but that doesn't equate to some "injustice". There was no "injustice" when Christ denied the Gospel to be taught to non-Jews save the couple of exceptions. There was no "injustice" when ONLY the Tribe of Aaron could have the Priesthood. There is no "injustice" simply because men can't bear children. There is no "injustice" because women are not as strong as men.
A restriction for God's purposes is not even equivalent to the Evils of Jim Crow laws. You're trying to equivocate the two as being the same, in that Mormonism was worse betrays YOUR OWN BIOTRY.......
Yes there was. I reject your fallacious appeal to authority.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
