bcspace wrote:Am still not a millionaire, but my prayers always seem to be answered one way or another, especially in terms of peace, confidence, and everything turning out for good in the end.
So why did my prayers never get answered affirmatively?...Please don't suggest that I was not worthy or open - the strongest answers I ever received were in the LDS temple. Does elohim hate me? The strongest spiritual experience I have ever had was in answer to the question "Is the LDS church NOT true" - I have never felt the "spirit" confirm (affirmatively) my prayers more strongly. Why does elohim provide different answers to different people? Why would he confirm that the LDS church is untrue?
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
How can I resist posting in this thread? What arrogance has been displayed here. My gosh! You folks lightly esteem all things concerning God and trample upon him when your ignorance is not well served. Some mock and say God should be about really important stuff and not the minutia of our meager daily lives. Those same eyes fail to see the hand of God in greater things either. All is vanity and vanity of vanities.
Here is the difference. I was well taken apart as a lad. I did not so much as consider myself worthy to look up to God or consider I deserved the least thing. I could not keep a thought in me that I deserved better than the crimes I suffered continually. It was a way to cope. If I deserved better it would hurt worse. Needless to say I vaunted NOT up myself that God should hear me or answer any prayer. I never remember crying out to God for help. I remained in denial. A state of being stunned by the evil parents can do.
But then I grew up. Tacitly, I would wink or blink a thought of God and began to wonder. I began to choose good over evil and emboldened myself some. I fasted three days and sought to get a grip on my weakness, without prayer. I had since stopped praying my rote prayers and was not attending church. I could pray. I prayed when asked the same prayer we all did (do). Not until I gathered all I owned and traveled away from home did I venture to pray at the side of the road after my 55 Pontiac broke down on the Arizona corner of the old highway between Utah and Nevada. God answered that prayer as it went up repentedly and at the cost of my pride as I was not making any rote prayer but sought to pray for the first time in ever and earnest.
What was really cool was not much the answer that solved my problem and got me on my way but that I did not vaunt up thinking how swell I was to get an answer. I was still stuck in my meekness that was ingrained into my psyche. That was important for the rest of the story;
Nightlion wrote:How can I resist posting in this thread? What arrogance has been displayed here. My gosh! You folks lightly esteem all things concerning God and trample upon him when your ignorance is not well served. Some mock and say God should be about really important stuff and not the minutia of our meager daily lives. Those same eyes fail to see the hand of God in greater things either. All is vanity and vanity of vanities.
Here is the difference. I was well taken apart as a lad. I did not so much as consider myself worthy to look up to God or consider I deserved the least thing. I could not keep a thought in me that I deserved better than the crimes I suffered continually. It was a way to cope. If I deserved better it would hurt worse. Needless to say I vaunted NOT up myself that God should hear me or answer any prayer. I never remember crying out to God for help. I remained in denial. A state of being stunned by the evil parents can do.
But then I grew up. Tacitly, I would wink or blink a thought of God and began to wonder. I began to choose good over evil and emboldened myself some. I fasted three days and sought to get a grip on my weakness, without prayer. I had since stopped praying my rote prayers and was not attending church. I could pray. I prayed when asked the same prayer we all did (do). Not until I gathered all I owned and traveled away from home did I venture to pray at the side of the road after my 55 Pontiac broke down on the Arizona corner of the old highway between Utah and Nevada. God answered that prayer as it went up repentedly and at the cost of my pride as I was not making any rote prayer but sought to pray for the first time in ever and earnest.
What was really cool was not much the answer that solved my problem and got me on my way but that I did not vaunt up thinking how swell I was to get an answer. I was still stuck in my meekness that was ingrained into my psyche. That was important for the rest of the story;
So zeezrom's prayer wasn't answered because of his arrogance? What an arrogant thing to say--it's always the individual's fault, even when God doesn't keep his promises (as they are recorded in the "holy" scriptures.) Screw you and anyone else who blames the sincere and earnest supplicant for God's failures.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Equality wrote:So zeezrom's prayer wasn't answered because of his arrogance? What an arrogant thing to say--it's always the individual's fault, even when God doesn't keep his promises (as they are recorded in the "holy" scriptures.) f*** you and anyone else who blames the sincere and earnest supplicant for God's failures.
A.to-the-f#$%#-men. I did everything i could do to communicate with "god". Apparently, he is an asshole that answers the prayers of certain people but ignores the the struggles of people that actually have questions. What a dick....
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
Equality wrote: So zeezrom's prayer wasn't answered because of his arrogance? What an arrogant thing to say--it's always the individual's fault, even when God doesn't keep his promises (as they are recorded in the "holy" scriptures.) f*** you and anyone else who blames the sincere and earnest supplicant for God's failures.
Try not to over react on my account. A little bit of...God is real and true... splits your world, huh? Not cool. It's not the earnest kids I want to pimp slap but the adult blasphemers who juxtapose their own innocence to piss on what is holy.
schreech wrote: A.to-the-f#$%#-men. I did everything i could do to communicate with "god". Apparently, he is an asshole that answers the prayers of certain people but ignores the the struggles of people that actually have questions. What a dick....
You really sayin' that with 'THAT' avatar? I show up again an you got to crappy the place up to stay comfy?
The bright side in all this is that the Brigham Young University Prayer Team is undefeated this year in competitions with Oral Roberts University, Bob Jones and the Jefferson Davis Community College. Y you ask? Because they are so reverent and delightsome.
Sorry Hoops, but this is one team that does not have to rely on moral victories.
schreech wrote: A.to-the-f#$%#-men. I did everything i could do to communicate with "god". Apparently, he is an asshole that answers the prayers of certain people but ignores the the struggles of people that actually have questions. What a dick....
You really sayin' that with 'THAT' avatar? I show up again an you got to s****y the place up to stay comfy?
What is wrong with my avatar? Do you even know who that is? or, are you just being a crazy loon that judges people based on the clothes they wear?
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
Nightlion wrote: A little bit of...God is real and true...
LLOL (Loud Laughter Out Loud)!!!
For me, if I had had one shred, one speck, one iota, one sliver of a little bit of "God is real and true" in my life instead of a crapload of experiences to the contrary, I'd still be giving my money to the church. After 40 years though it was time to get real...and grow up.
Red flags look normal when you're wearing rose colored glasses.
schreech wrote: A.to-the-f#$%#-men. I did everything i could do to communicate with "god". Apparently, he is an asshole that answers the prayers of certain people but ignores the the struggles of people that actually have questions. What a dick....
You really sayin' that with 'THAT' avatar? I show up again an you got to s****y the place up to stay comfy?
Please feel free to comment on my avatar...Ignorance, on your part, is awesome..
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs