My Roommate (I cannot give you even his first name alone, because several years ago my roommate saw my posts, came to my home, and uttered thinly-veiled threats to me...that I not use his name...not even his first name only...so I will call him "My Roommate").
I was a roommate with My Roommate for 18 months. During about a year of this time, he had a girlfriend, just barely 17 when she moved in. Slept in his bed every night. She was a "bad" Catholic. But she did not smoke or drink. She paid a third of the rent. She worked during the day, made him a gorgeous meal every night. Slept in his bed every night. She loved him. He was 35-37 during this time. She was 17-19. She did not particularly like me. We were cordial, but she didn't like me. She told My Roommate to send me away. But he didn't. I was his friend, and I have to confess, he was mine. While just about everyone else in the affluent Single's Ward shunned me. He did not.
We got into tons of long conversations. One lasted at least 12 hours. He enjoyed intellectualism very much, as much as I did. Philosophizing. He told me many stories. He told me basically, BYU was a big free whorehouse. The women were eazy, and free, although he did admit that only "some" Mormon girls would give him vaginal sex, just about all he had met and dated freely gave him oral sex. When I first met him and heard these stories, I knew he was not lying, but I dismissed them as exaggerations. I believed that he was referring to the few "bad Mormon girls" that he hung around with. Certainly, I thought, the vast great majority of single Mormon girls were NOT like that. Well, to make a long story short, over the course of two years, I was discover that I was wrong, and he was right. Mormon women chased him, all the time. All the time.
During the time he had the young attractive Catholic girlfriend, he would get out of bed with her on Sunday morning, take a shower, dress in his Sunday best, and go to Church, a Single's Ward. He did not consider this to be unusual or "bad" or sinful in the least. To him this was normal. This is essentially what he did while a student at BYU, for six years. He saw nothing wrong or unusual with it. At Church, he would've course talk to the girls, who were heads over heals for him (no pun intended). They would all the time invite him to Sunday dinners, and also slip their telephone numbers in his pocket. He would come home with at least 4 or 5 numbers every week. I went to the same Ward. I got asked to Sunday dinner one time by...of course...a very fat Mormon girl. And I went. And I dated her 4 or 5 times before finally telling her I was not interested. Hurt her badly. She married a Pakistani guy, a Muslim, had four kids, and divorced him seven years later. She told me later that her Pakistani husband could not understand why she just didn't do exactly as he said, as all wives are supposed to do. But, he never beat her. He was a good guy. Anytime she defied him he would use a board and beat himself in the head until he bleed or until she finally agreed to obey him. He never beat her. He was a good guy.
None of the single Mormon girls seemed to be able to "discern" My Roommate, although I had been told by Mormon bishops and others that all Mormon women have "the Spirit of Discernment" whereby they would never "date" much less marry any man who was "unworthy". I was told directly that I "must be unworthy" and that was the reason why Mormon women did not date me, because the Spirit told them I was "unworthy". Well, apparently the Spirit wasn't working when they were around My Roommate, because not only did they "date" him, many proposed marriage (including two Returned Missionaries), and many of these young girls "did" things to him of a sexual nature. Again, mostly oral things. They were deeply, deeply, deeply in love with him.
My Roommate told me many things over the time I knew him, such as: "Darrick, if you want a girl to fall in love with you, all you have to do is make her cum!" I was quite shocked and offended at that, but, I can testify to the following:
1. Dozens upon dozens of young attractive Mormon girls fell in love with him.
2. Years later I was watching a program on Discovery, about courtship in Kyrgystan. The men literally "kidnapped" the young virgin women (with parents permission beforehand of course), then took them to a Muslim priest, who solumnized the marriage, then took them and raped the women. And the women are very happy the next day. That is part of the Kyrgystani courtship ritual that goes back thousands of years, before they were ever Muslims, and continues to this day. Women are stolen and raped, and the women fall in love with the men. That is their culture.
3. Did any of you see "Troy" with Brad Pitt? He steals a young attractive girl for sex, rapes her, she has an orgasm and falls in love with him. This happens all the time too at universities. The "problem" only results when the men don't call the women back.
No, I'm gonna get a LOT of hate replies for this, but, let me state this: if you can make a woman cum, she'll fall in love with you. 99.99.99 per cent of rapes (true rapes...not pressured sex), do not involve that. They are violent struggles. But, in "pressured sex" (i.e. the women does not want to have sex but finally agrees to it by not resisting it), orgasm in the woman can occur (No, I'm not talking from personal experience...I've never had sex with anyone).. I have met many divorced Mormon women at Single's Dance (over 30 crowd), who told me that their ex-husbands were evil, adulterous men, who cheated on them, and "he raped me on my first date!" At first I would think it was some sort of strange joke, but they weren't joking. Then I would ask, "Did you turn him over to the police?" They would say, "No, I married him". I would ask, "WHY did you marry that guy?" They would say, "Well, a good Mormon girl is supposed to do that". I AM NOT LYING TO YOU! I was told that by at least 8 women over the years, and I have been attending Mormon Single's (over 30) Dances for about 23 years.
So, that is what My Roommate told me. You invite a girl over, have her sit on your lap, then massage her breasts, and if she does not jump off, you unzip her and go for the Most Holy Place, and work your fingers until she has an orgasm. He said, "Do that and she'll fall in love with you, but you gotta give her an orgasm!"! Now, I admit, I've never tried that. I was SHOCKED when he told me that. I caught him once doing that with a Mormon woman, who jumped off his lap after I came into the living room. All I DO know, is that dozens upon dozens of Mormon women, from the ages of 18 to 35, fell in love with him. That much I know for sure. When I was a Mormon, I would cut my own throat before thinking of doing that. I put Mormon women on a pedastal. I thought doing that was highly immoral. I would never consider doing it. Today.....I would not do that NOT because it is immoral, but I would be too scared to try it. After all, that is sexual assault. So, I've never tried it. I supposed if a woman sat on my lap, in a private place, she might expect that, or be welcoming of it, but I'd still never even try it. I'm too shy. Too scared.
Also, I'm an "Omega" male. I've had women call me a "pervert" for just making eye-contact with them (my eyes bulge...which tells the animal brains of women that I am "coming on" to them...when in fact I'm not...my eyes are naturally that way). Had I tried doing with girls what My Roommate did, I'd probably still be in jail today. But, My Roommate was an "Alpha Male". He also had a good job, lots of money. The Mormon women and girls "fell" for him....in more ways than one....one right after another...over and over and over and over and over again. Not "one" could "discern" him. Or, if they could, they didn't care.
Now, you must understand, My Roommate was having sex with his girlfriend. He would still go to Young Adult dances every weekend, and he'd bring home a young attractive Mormon girl. He would tell his girlfriend to stay upstairs and not come down. He'd bring home a girl, and have her sit in his lap. I'd be in my room already usually. I'd hear kissing, and then moaning. I got really sick from this, and that led me to go back and live with my Mom (or later my Dad), because I all this made me sick. No girl ever "turned him into" police. But many of them proposed marriage.
My Roommate also, during this time, used to tell me things like "You know Darrick, as long as they have hair down there...they're old enough for sex!" He would say, "You know, why would God give a woman hair, and the ability to have a baby, and the ability to have an orgasm at 12 or 13, if he didn't want them to have sex until they were 17 or 18?" At this time, during this time, I later found out, he was trying to become a Chapperone for the Youth Dances in the Stake we lived in. They turned him down, probably because he was not married (he was divorced). My Roommate wanted to get at the 13 and 14 year old girls. And, they too would have "fallen in love" with him, just like the others did.
All during this time, when he had sex with his girlfriend, and oral sex with all sorts of Mormon women, the Mormon women could not "discern" he was "unworthy". In fact, many of them believed that God told them that My Roommate would become their Eternal Companion, and take them to the Temple. That's what they told their parents. That's what some of them told me! I tried to give them hints that he did not love them, or that he was immoral. In return, they either insulted me on the spot, called me a liar, or simply had nothing to do with me after that. NONE of the Mormon women were able to "discern" My Roommate. Not one. They were all "blind". Blinds as bats. Nay. Blind as eyeless earthworms.
Well, things went South for my friend (and me too). The Mormon girls who were in love with him, started comparing notes. They started to confide in each other. They began to realize that My Roommate was not only doing stuff with them, but their "friends" as well. So, they would call the house, or come over, demanding answers. He would hang up and call them "dump bitches" and laugh. Then they'd go to the bishop and tell him. The first bishop did nothing. In fact, I told the first bishop, Bishop Kunzler, everything, and he basically called me a liar, chuckling and saying, "Well, I find that HARD to believe!" Basically, he told me I was loser, and making up stories about My Roommate because Mormon women rejected me, because I was "unworthy" and My Roommate was "worthy". I was jealous of him, so that's why I was making up false stories. Besides "Mormon women would never do what you are saying they are doing". They would never have sex of any kind with any man before marriage, unless FORCED to do so by an evil man, and, in that case, if that is what was happening, then the Mormon women would have come to him saying So-and-So raped me, but they haven't, so I (Darrick) must be lying. Needless to say, I was devastated. I came to find out over the years that many Mormon bishops are that way: simply ignorant, self-righteous men, like the Pharisees in the time of Jesus.
But a new bishop came in, and they'd go to him and say, "Bishop, I have a friend, and So-and-So did this and that to my friend, pressured her into having sex, and then dumped her!" And the bishop, Bishop Johnson, would ask: "What is your friends name?" and the girls would say, "Oh, I can't tell you. My friend made me promise not to tell!" Of course, the girls were the "friends". They simply did not want the embarrassment of telling the bishop they are the ones that gave My Roommate the knob jobs. So, they said a "friend" did so. Bishop Johnson told me all this. In return, he would ask me, "Did Sister so-and-so date So-and-So (My Roommate)?" and of course I'd say "Yes" so I confirmed for him what he already suspected, that the girls who were complaining about My Roommate having sex with their girl-friends were in fact the girls themselves. And the only reason these girls were "turning in" My Roommate, is because they finally figured out he didn't love them and had no intention of marrying them; not in the Temple or anywhere else.
Anyway, Bishop Johnson confronted My Roommate, who denied everything, calling the girls "A bunch of liars". He told him, "don't come back to my Ward while I'm bishop!" He didn't. My Roomate went to another Single's Ward, and started the process all over again. Bishop Johnson actually got a few of the girls to confess, and he set up a number of Church Courts, but one of the girls was the daughter of one of the members of the Stake Presidency, so the Stake Presidency "released" bishop Johnson, cancelled all the Church Courts, and re-installed Bishop Kunzler as bishop again: the very man who called me a liar when I told him about My Roommate. Bishop Johnson had only served I think 5 or 6 months as bishop. He was a very good honest man, who was only doing what the General Handbook of Instructions told him to do. For that, he was "released" (fired). Kunzler threatened Ward members, telling them to stop talking about the incident or else. All was Well in Zion. Kunzler later became Second Counselor in the Bellevue Washington Stake Presidency. He was a liar through and through. A dishonorable man.
Anyway, foolishly (as usual), I went to the bishops of the other Young Adult and Single's Wards, warning them of My Roommate (by this time of course my former roommate). Two of them mocked me by bulging their eyes and shaking their heads at me...I have large bulging eyes like Don Knotts or the actor, named Bucemi, who plays Enoch Thompson on the "Boardwalk Empire" HBO series). The other chucked and said, "Well, I find your story HARD to believe!" and then told me that all Mormon women have the "Spirit of Discernment" and would not "date" any man who was in the slightest way "unworthy". In other words, it was "IMPOSSIBLE" for my story to be true, because Mormon women simply would NOT do the things I said they did. But.......they did! O MY GOD did they!!! They were in love
My Roommate kept on having sex (usually oral) with young attractive Mormon girls and women. I later found out he got an 18 year old Mormon girl pregnant when he was 37. He refused to marry her. She had the kid, who was adopted by a man (Mormon?) she later married. The kid died in a car crash at the age of 19. Last I heard of My Roommate he was totally inactive, but banging a 28 year old single divorced Mormon woman on the side. He is 58. Banging away....as usual.
My roommate had once been married to a "Miss Photogenic Utah"; a beauty-queen he met at BYU. He had an excellent career, and had a little girl together and he genuinely loved both of them. I used to ask him, "Why did your wife divorce you?" and he'd JERK his head away so as to not make eye contact and say, "I don't know! I don't know!" Years later I met his ex-wife's best friend in Salt Lake City.She told me why. He had oral sex with two babysitters, and banged two of her best girlfriends. That's why. He had EVERYTHING a man could want....a gorgeous young sexy wife, good career, lots of money, beautiful daughter. He threw it all away....so he could bang, BANG, B______A___________N___________G other women and girls. Threw it all away. And the Mormon women, including RMs, could "NOT" tell he was no good. Not for an instant. They all fell in love with him. They all though he would be their Eternal Companion. They were ALL SPIRITUALLY BLIND...as blind as could be. They were simply "obeying the Snake". All women do.
What is the "MORAL" of this story? The moral is:
1. Mormon bishops are a bunch of self-righteous FOOLS! Idiots. In a few exceptionally rare cases, you get an honorable man who does the right thing, like Bishop Johnson (who was "released" for the offense of scheduling a Church Court on a girl whose father was in the Stake Presidency)
2. Mormon women have NO "Spirit of Discernment" as I was told, repeatedly, that they had.
3. Mormon women are NO DIFFERENT than other women. Their brains are controlled by pheromones just like all other female mammals. When it comes to mating, they will obey their DNA (the Snake) rather than Church rules or God's Laws. Perhaps this is the meaning of the Parable of Eve and the Talking Snake? I.E. Women will always obey the Snake (instinct/DNA) if the Snake and God give them contradictory commands (i.e. Don't eat the apple/Go ahead eat the apple).
4. Women have to be protected from Predators like My Roommate, just as children have to be protected from drugs or alcohol. Women can't "protect" themselves! This is why young women are never left alone for one moment in many cultures, like in the Middle East. Women will "succumb" (no pun) to Predators like My Roommate, every time. They will always "obey the Snake". Every time.
5. My Roommate was never taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He was raised in an affluent Mormon Ward just outside of Tacoma, Washington. He was taught the Gospel of Gain; whose fruits are always bad. The Gospel of Gain has replaced all other gospels...even the Mormon Gospel.. in affluent Mormon Wards.
6. One of the last things I told My Roommate was "You're GOING TO HELL!" He laughed at me and said, "THERE IS NO HELL!!!" This is what he was taught growing up, in an affluent Mormon Ward, that "There is no Hell". He had absolutely NO FEAR of the judgment of God. None. Because he was taught...there is none. The Book of Mormon teaches that the Devil inspires men to say "There is no Hell". This is what My Roommate was told many times. I've heard it myself from Mormons, mostly from affluent Mormons, many times. The Natural Man is an enemy to God, and, if there is no punishment for sin, the Natural Man never repents.
7. As a Mormon, I always treated Mormon women with utter respect and honesty. Usually, I got dishonest and disrespect in return. Not in all cases, but usually. Most believed me to be their inferior. Some said, "I"m BETTER than you!" My eyes bulge, so many Mormon women have "rejected" me, even though I never asked them for a date, or even a dance. They thought I was making "eyes" at them. Their animal brain rules them. My rational human brain rules me. Today, I don't respect Mormon women until they earn it. I've seen too many things. I'm sure there are honorable Mormon women, but I've seen too many dishonorable ones. They could tell me anything, and I won't believe them, because they've lied to me too much. Maybe I'd trust one after I got to know her, but I doubt it. My "bile" against Mormon women did not start until years after I left the Church, and looked back. While I was a Mormon I treated Mormon with UTTER respect and honesty. In return, I usually received dishonesty and dis-respect. I was poor. I was an Omega. I had nothing Mormon women wanted or needed. The Bible says: "And the LORD respected Jacob, but for Esau he had no respect". I say: "And Mormon women loved and respected My Roommate, but for Darrick they had no respect".
8. The Mormon leaders are doing their young women a great dis-service by telling them "You are good, you are pure! You are daughters of God, royal princesses!" Most Mormon girls need self-esteem like Oprah Winfrey needs a seven course meal with cake and ice-cream and chocolate sprinkles! Self-esteem and inflated Ego is the problem, not the solution. Mormon leaders should start teaching young women they are sinners destined for Hell unless they repent. That is what The Book of Mormon actually teaches.
9. As for me, I was in the wrong religion! Mormonism is a religion for people who want to "GET STUFF" from God, instead of giving to others who don't have stuff, stuff they need. Mormonism is NOT a religion for men like me. It is a religion for selfish people seeking personal gain and ego-building. Not a nice religion
for people like me.
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My Roommate, Darrick, and Mormon Women
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Re: My Roommate, Darrick, and Mormon Women
This whole post reeks of jealousy and sour grapes. You strike me as a broken person who has already quit at life and is justifying his non-living life with excuses. Just climb up on the cross already and martyr yourself. You've all but declared yourself Jesus Christ for having lived a pious celibate life.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
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Re: My Roommate, Darrick, and Mormon Women
Darrick in my opinion you would be best served by giving up on thinking about the past and instead moving forward ..perhaps focusing in ways to improve your life. You keep rehashing the same gripes..which I don't see as being helpful to you. It seems to be reinforcing negative emotions for yourself in my opinion. Everything you say may very well be true but how does that help you by complaining about it repeatedly.