It's Official - Stand and Shout the Gays are Out (link)

[_Shulem]

subgenius,

I used to talk like you and be like you while serving faithfully in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- judging everyone around me and being holier-than-thou. You, are just a boy looking for a fight. But I won't bother with you. You are beneath me.

Your cult has you so brainwashed and disturbed that you can't see straight. Your heart is full of hate and disgust. Mormonism and deception go hand in hand. Joseph Smith was a total liar. I'm glad he was killed. The man was a total skunk. He toyed with people's lives and he paid a dear price.

I will continue to bare testimony that Mormonism is false and that the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 as offered by your founding prophet are pure lies. Go and be like Joe Smith, subgenius-boy, because your apple is close to his tree. Go and have the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 tattooed to your chest as a witness of Mormonism.

Paul O

[_Droopy]

subgenius,

I used to talk like you and be like you while serving faithfully in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- judging everyone around me and being holier-than-thou.

Kind of like you do now, only from outside the Church and with a liberal peppering of four letter words and pornographic mockery.

Your cult has you so brainwashed and disturbed that you can't see straight. Your heart is full of hate and disgust. Mormonism and deception go hand in hand. Joseph Smith was a total liar. I'm glad he was killed. The man was a total skunk. He toyed with people's lives and he paid a dear price.

This particular form of madness - one of the bitterest of the bitter fruits of apostasy - exceeds that of even Graham and others of his kind reaching all the way back into the 19th century.

I will continue to bare testimony that Mormonism is false and that the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 as offered by your founding prophet are pure lies. Go and be like Joe Smith, subgenius-boy, because your apple is close to his tree. Go and have the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 tattooed to your chest as a witness of Mormonism.

No, tattooing, body painting, body piercing, and the like are not the waters most LDS are wont to swim in, but are most ably manifested by much of the homosexual subculture and allied, what I might call netherculture subgroups of sexual fetishists and pursuers of avant garde lifestyles of the polymorphously perverse and paganistic sort.

[_moksha]

It is important to note that the article specifically did not mention homoerotic Temple art as a magnet drawing gays to Utah. Thus it cannot be promoted as an indicating factor on the Catbert Gayness Scale.

[_Drifting]

No, tattooing, body painting, body piercing, and the like are not the waters most LDS are wont to swim in,

Do most Mormon ladies pierce their bodies?
I think you'll find most do - their ears which, if I remember my biology correctly, do form part of the body.

Do most Mormon ladies paint their body?
I think you'll find most do - their faces and nails which, if I remember my biology correctly, do form part of the body.

And as for tattooing...

Still, tattooed Mormons have managed to find one another and form a kind of subculture. “I was blown away by the amount of tattoos I viewed in the showers,” said James Peterson, 32, about his missionary training in Provo, Utah, in the late 1990s. When he went off on his mission to Spain, he and other missionaries would trade issues of tattoo magazines, taking care to cut out images of topless women or devils.

[_Drifting]

subgenius,

I used to talk like you and be like you while serving faithfully in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- judging everyone around me and being holier-than-thou. You, are just a boy looking for a fight. But I won't bother with you. You are beneath me.

Your cult has you so brainwashed and disturbed that you can't see straight. Your heart is full of hate and disgust. Mormonism and deception go hand in hand. Joseph Smith was a total liar. I'm glad he was killed. The man was a total skunk. He toyed with people's lives and he paid a dear price.

I will continue to bare testimony that Mormonism is false and that the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 as offered by your founding prophet are pure lies. Go and be like Joe Smith, subgenius-boy, because your apple is close to his tree. Go and have the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 tattooed to your chest as a witness of Mormonism.

Paul O

Here is what subgenius stated on another thread...

First let me say that i am not a promoter of polygamy...but i am a promoter of adults being allowed certain freedoms.
So many who speak out against polygamy with such unfounded nonsense as read in the above column and post, so often rely on the "between consenting adults" argument to justify other behaviors....yet the same can be argued here.

The argument that polygamy demeans women just does not hold water to any mildly educated individual, that argument is tantamount to saying we should outlaw whiskey because of Otis (from Mayberry).
The impact of polygamy on children is quite undecided as of yet, meaning that the critics have yet to find something they can manipulate into an argument...in fact anthropologist Philip Kilbride has shown that polygamy would decrease divorce rate and be better for children.
The only real criticism of polygamy is that there will be an excess of single men, those who DNA will fade into the abyss of not being selected by the desires and qualifications deemed appropriate by a woman.
Yes, women should be allowed the same freedom to marry multiple husbands, but they likely will not, most likely due to the biological imperative of testosterone.
What business does the government have in legislating "love"....is that not the popular argument?
Bottom line is that polygamy is to marriage like the free-market is to the economy (no wonder the Canadians are against it)....those against polygamy are likely either uninformed, hypocritical, or worse.

I find subgenius to be a poster of the two-faced variety...

two-faced - marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings and acting under the influence of another

[_subgenius]

what a great moral compass...if only Charles Manson had been allowed to be who he truly was....oppressive government and uncaring society squelched his freedom.

Really? You are comparing Paul to Charles Manson? Throw around hyperbole much? And this hyperbole that doesn't even make sense. It is just a shock value insult!!

not really, the poster's argument is based on the sole principle of "whatever makes me happy" should be, not only condoned, but supported by society at large.
My point is that the relative value and virtue of his position has be omitted...as it has in mine. I have not equated the moral value of either person in my post above, because it is obviously of no use to Paul's argument.

You don't know Paul. I do. He is a wonderful person and father. You are really going to compare him to a serial murderer because he is gay?

i did not compare him to a serial murderer...i simply applied the logic of his justification to its reasonable conclusion in order to illustrate how such a justification is not appropriate.
No, i don't know Paul and i do not dispute that what you say about him is true. However, that does not mean that he gets to live however he "feels like". Unfortunately our society has rules, rewards and punishments. Yes, we have a great deal of freedom to "be" who we want to be, but that does not automatically entitle us to benefits nor does it automatically entitle us to support from society's systems.

[_subgenius]

subgenius,...
-- judging everyone around me and being holier-than-thou.

i have not judged you or ever maintained that i am better or worse than you.

You, are just a boy looking for a fight. But I won't bother with you. You are beneath me.

but, obviously you are one to judge.

Your cult has you so brainwashed and disturbed that you can't see straight. Your heart is full of hate and disgust. Mormonism and deception go hand in hand. Joseph Smith was a total liar. I'm glad he was killed. The man was a total skunk. He toyed with people's lives and he paid a dear price.

bitter much?

I will continue to bare testimony that Mormonism is false and that the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 as offered by your founding prophet are pure lies. Go and be like Joe Smith, subgenius-boy, because your apple is close to his tree. Go and have the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 tattooed to your chest as a witness of Mormonism.
Paul O

the strategy of insulting and degrading the people whom you need to convince to give you something is amusing...i wonder how successful that has been....not too much. You see, i do not have to convince you that LGBT is not virtuous to society, it is you that has to convince society that it is. And though i admire your perseverance against the incredible odds of logic, reason, common sense, and good values, i fear that your arguments will slip away just as they have for centuries. Because, for as much ground as the LGBT may want to consider that they have gained, it is quite simply a tiny fraction of anything meaningful.
Now, this is in no way a condemnation of you, but one simply of the misguided choices you have made. And ultimately we see our differences summed up thusly:
You take a position that your family and children can not possibly be happy unless you are happy.
I take a position that my happiness is derived from their happiness.

(and for the record, i do not consider tattoos to be appropriate)

[_Buffalo]

It's pretty telling that the best argument the homophobes have is to try to compare their gay brothers and sisters to rapists and murders. When that's your central argument, you've already lost.

[_subgenius]

It's pretty telling that the best argument the homophobes have is to try to compare their gay brothers and sisters to rapists and murders. When that's your central argument, you've already lost.

a moronic conclusion.
there has been no such comparison, simply a application of the LGBT argument which accentuates the absurdity of their argument.
Your inability, as usual, to distinguish that reveals your own prejudice against reason and logic while demonstrating your insistence to "spin" propaganda for a cause you can otherwise not justify.
I would say your arguments "already lost"...but they have yet to even compete.

[_Buffalo]

It's pretty telling that the best argument the homophobes have is to try to compare their gay brothers and sisters to rapists and murders. When that's your central argument, you've already lost.

a moronic conclusion.
there has been no such comparison, simply a application of the LGBT argument which accentuates the absurdity of their argument.
Your inability, as usual, to distinguish that reveals your own prejudice against reason and logic while demonstrating your insistence to "spin" propaganda for a cause you can otherwise not justify.
I would say your arguments "already lost"...but they have yet to even compete.

That's been your only argument, simpleton. Like Charlie Sheen, you're the only one who thinks you're "winning." :)