What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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Re: What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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bcspace wrote:
You seem to have a knack for not answering straightforward questions.


You seem to have knack for ignoring uncomfortable answers.



We have asked you to post what you think is your answer, or at least post a link. That you haven't is telling.

Since my target audience is the intellectually honest, I know I am.


Only in your fantasy world. You don't even seem to know what it means. :)
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Re: What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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We have asked you to post what you think is your answer, or at least post a link.


Done several times in this thread already and even brade recognized it but wouldn't address it because he knows it's too strong for him. Let me know when you're ready to address it.
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Re: What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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I would be interested in knowing when it was the idea that doctrine equals absolute unchanging truth crept into the discussion.

It seems to be the unstated assertion under which BC is operating.

I think it is probably a false equation and wonder if BC can show us where this is printed.

In an official Church publication, of course.

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Re: What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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I would be interested in knowing when it was the idea that doctrine equals absolute unchanging truth crept into the discussion.

It seems to be the unstated assertion under which BC is operating.

I think it is probably a false equation and wonder if BC can show us where this is printed.

In an official Church publication, of course.


You seem to have missed my answer back on page 10:

You know, all this back and forth seems to stem from the decidedly undoctrinal position that doctrine cannot change.

One we stipulate, as I will here and now for the record, that LDS doctrine is subject to change, the entire argument is moot.

What do you say, BCSpace?

Do you believe that LDS doctrine can change?

I have stipulated on multiple occasions that doctrine can and does change. Continuing revelation IS part of our systematic theology. And yes, I see the same undoctrinal assumption in the "back and forth" which is why I keep mentioning it.

The problem our critics (and many LDS too) have is understanding what has actually changed. They often point to plural marriage and the Priesthood ban as examples. But in reality, neither of those have changed one whit. There is no doctrinal notion in the LDS Church that either was wrong or not inspired of God or something to be apologized for or nullified and indeed the current official doctrine shows that such could possibly happen again in both cases. For both plural marriage and the ban, the scripture accounts show God doing that from time to time.

The best examples of change come in the early LDS Church when new and significant doctrines where being revealed and restored. Beforehand, the doctrine on a subject might be similar to traditional Christianity until the new revelation came about. The same could be said of Jesus' teachings in the New Testament.
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Re: What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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bcspace wrote:
We have asked you to post what you think is your answer, or at least post a link.


Done several times in this thread already and even brade recognized it but wouldn't address it because he knows it's too strong for him. Let me know when you're ready to address it.


If that were true then it would be easy to post a link, and you would have done so.
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Re: What is Considered Official LDS Doctrine?

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Darth J wrote:Softcore S&M is official church doctrine....
subgenius wrote:surely that is not meant as a criticism but rather as an accolade.


bcspace wrote:It does seem like the principle of obedience is an S&M game to them doesn't it?


Who is "them"? Do you mean bishops who take members into a closed office to ask them "searching questions"?
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