OPEN LETTER to Runtu

[_Jersey Girl]

Oh my word. Do you even know what clinical depression is?

[_Droopy]

Oh, and a word about Anakin Skywalker...his downfall was not that he was "an asshole" it was that he allowed himself to become consumed with hate and anger. It was what drove him to his downfall and led to him living a miserable, lonely existence.

Wrong. Anniken Skywalker became consumed with pride and obsessed with power. You are mistaking symptoms for causes.

He became a "devil" in the LDS understanding of that term. He was, at the end of the day, a Satanic figure, ultimately, even if much of the Star Wars worldview was taken from New Age/Eastern concepts.

[_ajax18]

Fat Mormon women are great! They would make great mothers and wives. But, there is something called "sex". If the guy can't get excited, it ain't happening. Women don't need to be excited. Men do. If they can't get excited, it don't work. If I was a "Chubby Chaser" as some men are (mostly black men), then I would have married long ago, had children. But, God did not create me that way. I asked for Him to make fat woman attractive to me. He refused to do that.

Marriage is a martyrdom for a man from my perspective. If it weren't for my beliefs in God and the afterlife, I'd forego the entire ordeal altogether.

They would make great mothers and wives.

I know many of them that do. It's also nice not having to put up with the huge ego that comes with a girl who thinks she's all that. I'm attracted enough to fat women. If you add a good heart and an ethic of treating her man well, the fatness truly did become insignificant. But you have to be careful. Just because she's fat, doesn't mean she's been raised to treat men well. There are women out there who still treat men well. There's just not very many left. I gurantee you that you won't find a perfect 10 who treats men well.

Women don't need to be excited. Men do.

It's not worth marrying a diva. Remember, no matter how good she might look, some other man is already sick and tired of putting up with her crap. So many guys are jumping up and down for the chance to be her second or third try at marriage. They're crazy. I'd also recommend avoiding any woman whose father called her, "princess."

[_Droopy]

Fat Mormon women are great! They would make great mothers and wives.

"Fat Mormon girls you make the rockin' world go 'round..."

Oh, don't get me started.

[_Radex]

My dear fellow,

In some way, I sympathize with your frustration. I did not receive a formal education, but it wasn't due to money (the socialist UK at the time paid for school through the LEAs). I did not receive an education because I didn't think I was bright enough to succeed at university. In many ways, I seriously regret that decision, but it's a decision I live with and have made peace with. Perhaps in an effort of overcompensation, in my twenties I became a book spod. I grew an insatiable appetite for reading anything and everything I could. I read from history, science, British and American magazines on current events, and hobbies. As luck would have it, my long time career allowed me to make friends with some really great university fellows, and we'd have long talks about various things either they or I were interested in at the time.

In short, I didn't think I could make it at university so I didn't even try. When I realized this was a mistake, I mentally overcompensated by burying myself in pages and consuming all of my free time with books. Something inside me was ambitious, and realizing the mistake of not enrolling in school triggered it.

I've never had excess income, but, by working hard and never giving up I feel like I've been able to provide for myself and my family. Two of my children went through college in the U.S., and it was quite easy for them to get federal aid and student loans. If you really want to improve your life, I recommend college as a great stepping stone.

Just a few thoughts, anyway. Take them for what they're worth.

[_Daheshist]

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I can't get a student loan. I screwed up my first one. Half my fault. Half the fault of FannyMae, who wanted me to pay for loans I got to attend Rio Hondo College. They only problem was, I never attended that college, and I never got loans to attend. People here in the States steal your information, especially social security number, birth-date, etc. I.D. theft. So, I went to Rio Hondo College, and they finally agreed...yep...you never attended here. Got a letter from them. Send the letter to FannyMae (private student loan company), and they said, "We don't care! Pay it back or else". So, I said, "Else". And it was defaulted. You are right...I should have paid on it, even though....I never took out a student loan for Rio Hondo College. But, I did take out a loan for another college. I got sick, E-Coli, had to quit school mid-semester. Was paying on the true loan, when Fanny Mae demanded I also pay on the Rio Hondo loan which I never applied for and never got. I got mad, and said "F-YOU". But...you are right, I should have paid them both back, even though I was only responsible for the lesser of them. My bad. Now I'm paying for it.

Can I get a judge to say "clear" my name and student loan record? Sure! That will cost me about 5,000 to 10,000 dollars in attorney fees by the time all is said and done. I can barely pay my rent. I have no bank account whatsoever. So....crap happens. And, even if my name is cleared, then I must work a job and support myself while going to school, that does not conflict with school hours. And that job must pay me enough to survive as well as pay for my tuition, which here is 1800 per semester including books.

College in my state costs about 1600 dollars per Semester full time, community college. Not bad. At the moment, I'm my Dad's caregiver. He can't take a crap by himself. He can't cook meals by himself. We live in two separate motel rooms, because I'm UBER-allergic to nicotine, and he smokes.....all day.....all night. His credit is no good, and I am not employee elsewhere. So, we must stay in too motel rooms. He can't afford an Altzeimer's home. He makes too much to get Government assistance, but too little to pay 200 to 300 per DAY for an Alzheimer's home. So, I take care of him. All meals. All bathrooms. I go out and buy his food and cigarettes. In return, I get 20 per day spending money and free room and board. We can save maybe 100 to 200 dollars a month, if that. But, I'm saving up for trucking school. But, thanks for your suggestion. You did so because you want to help, and I appreciate that. I plan to go to trucking school in about another 4 or 5 months. I have to save for that, and also I have to hire a girl to take care of my dad while I'm in trucking school, and while I'm working at it (if I can find a job at it). No girl is gonna work 8 hours a day taking care of my dad for 40 dollars a day. So, I'll have to pay her some of my income as well. But, truckers are paid ok. The trucking companies want Congress to "ok" them hiring Mexican nationals to drive trucks. Why? Because they can pay Mexican nationals LESS, far less, than Americans. Although there is about 10% unemployment among Americans (it is in reality much hire than than 10%), there are 1 to 2 million illegals coming into this country every year, with about 1 million LEGAL aliens. The legal aliens get free eduction, free place to live for a time period while they are in school. Illegals can go to school here just like American citizens, no questions asked. Also, the illegals are all on welfare, because they have young children, no questions asked. So, hopefully, Congress will NOT allow the trucking companies to hire Mexican nationals! Millions of Americans are out of work, an the trucking companies want to hire Mexican nationals and pay them $12,000 per year, because they Americans need twice that or more to survive and raise a family here. Hopefully, Congress will not allow this. If it does, I won't be able to get a job in trucking.

I could get my old job back working 12 hours a day six days a week taking old folks and brain injured to doctor appointments, but....at $900 per month and no time for school...why? At least taking care of my Dad, I have time to mess around on Mormon Discussions.

Is my life "consumed by loneliness and bitterness"? I am lonely because I am poor. That has nothing to do with my fight against Mormonism. I am HAPPY to fight against Mormonism. It gives my life purpose, meaning, a "cause" to fight for. It makes me happy.

Thanks for your suggestion about going to college. I would, if I could! Thank you.

My dear fellow,

In some way, I sympathize with your frustration. I did not receive a formal education, but it wasn't due to money (the socialist UK at the time paid for school through the LEAs). I did not receive an education because I didn't think I was bright enough to succeed at university. In many ways, I seriously regret that decision, but it's a decision I live with and have made peace with. Perhaps in an effort of overcompensation, in my twenties I became a book spod. I grew an insatiable appetite for reading anything and everything I could. I read from history, science, British and American magazines on current events, and hobbies. As luck would have it, my long time career allowed me to make friends with some really great university fellows, and we'd have long talks about various things either they or I were interested in at the time.

In short, I didn't think I could make it at university so I didn't even try. When I realized this was a mistake, I mentally overcompensated by burying myself in pages and consuming all of my free time with books. Something inside me was ambitious, and realizing the mistake of not enrolling in school triggered it.

I've never had excess income, but, by working hard and never giving up I feel like I've been able to provide for myself and my family. Two of my children went through college in the U.S., and it was quite easy for them to get federal aid and student loans. If you really want to improve your life, I recommend college as a great stepping stone.

Just a few thoughts, anyway. Take them for what they're worth.

[_Mercury]

You clearly have no *self edit* clue about depression. You should educate yourself before spouting worthless *self edit* all over the board. Medication works a lot better than just thinking about how good you got it. If you are depressed please see your doctor about it.

I've heard ice cream is a good substitute for Prozac.

And I have heard that you give out handjobs for meth

[_Runtu]

And I have heard that you give out handjobs for meth

Ice cream is a terrible substitute for Prozac.

Prozac helps me function without depression. Ice cream just makes me gain weight.

[_Mercury]

And I have heard that you give out handjobs for meth

Ice cream is a terrible substitute for Prozac.

Prozac helps me function without depression. Ice cream just makes me gain weight.

Seconded on the benefits of pharmacological therapies for depression.

[_Runtu]

Seconded on the benefits of pharmacological therapies for depression.

It works even better in conjunction with psychotherapy. Ice cream doesn't.