The Ej Meh Conundrum Attn: bcspace!

[_bcspace]

We have been through this to the point of boredom. Either you want to assert that Adam and Eve are ancestors (if not sole progenitors) of the entire human race or you don't. Which is it to be?

I'm asserting many possibilities. Always have. Which way do you want to go?

[_Darth J]

and now he is contradicting his own evidence because he needs to in order to have Adam and Eve spread their genes throughout the world.

There is no contradiction because the properties which would establish the whole earth to be in a "garden state" or just a local garden are not set.

You said that we don't know where Adam and his family were. You provided a link telling us where Adam and his family were.

there is no internal consistency.

Plenty of consistency. I'd say you're confused because I can take my hypothesis in different directions and adapt it to various conditions.

Various conditions such as whatever needs to be said at any given moment.

All I've done is show plausible models in which evolution can fit with LDS doctrine.

No, you haven't. There is nothing plausible about anything you have said. Taking an ancient Hebrew myth literally, and then making up myths to explain that myth out of thin air, without providing any reason whatsoever to believe in any of it, does not equate to plausibility.

[_Chap]

We have been through this to the point of boredom. Either you want to assert that Adam and Eve are ancestors (if not sole progenitors) of the entire human race or you don't. Which is it to be?

I'm asserting many possibilities. Always have. Which way do you want to go?

How about the way you think is true?

[_moksha]

Australia? The Bering Strait? One does not have to remove the Fall too far back to make it work.

There are Australian Aboriginal rock paintings from around 40,000 BCE and the Early European cave paintings from Lascaux are dated as being close to 18,000 BCE.

If you add all of this together, the Tigress and Euphrates Rivers on the plains of the Serengeti in Missouri must have made for one very fertile crescent.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

How would that make it impossible?

Mathematically, 5 million people will out breed two. Even if the 5 million are borderline retarded, if they were successful enough to breed up to 5 million, they will continue to breed.

You make these claims, but you never provide examples. Why can't the Lord have spread the children of A and E to the various populations? Why can't lines that ultimately don't result in mating with a child of A&E die out? What if, for example, the Flood is a metaphor for that? There are just too many possibilities.

Examples? Tasmanians, for one. They walked onto the island, but the sea flooded back after some ice melted and they were isolated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmania#Indigenous_people Furthermore, before you put A/E-ites in a boat to Tasmania, remember that they also never "progressed" beyond the technology levels of the Ej Meh-ites, so by your own measure the indigenous peoples are inferior. Yes, inferior humans.

The FACT, and I mean science here, is that Ej Meh-ites are equally as intelligent in every way as we are. Why? They are us! If you want to say god waved his magic wand to hide this or extinct that, then you have rejected science. Your hypothesis contradicts science, it contradicts math, it just doesn't work.

[_Chap]

A small point of vocabulary: in some places on the surface of the globe that I have spent time in, A&E means 'Accident and Emergency', that is, the department of a hospital into which ambulances decant the results of multi-vehicle pile-ups, discussions between drunks involving broken bottles, sad suicides and the feckless who think they might have caught something nasty but don't have a regular doctor, and want to be somewhere warm anyway.

So for some people reading this board, maybe the expression 'children of A&E' may not quite hit the right note.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

A small point of vocabulary: in some places on the surface of the globe that I have spent time in, A&E means 'Accident and Emergency', that is, the department of a hospital into which ambulances decant the results of multi-vehicle pile-ups, discussions between drunks involving broken bottles, sad suicides and the feckless who think they might have caught something nasty but don't have a regular doctor, and want to be somewhere warm anyway.

So for some people reading this board, maybe the expression 'children of A&E' may not quite hit the right note.

Why not? Aren't we all children of A/E?

[_Chap]

A small point of vocabulary: in some places on the surface of the globe that I have spent time in, A&E means 'Accident and Emergency', that is, the department of a hospital into which ambulances decant the results of multi-vehicle pile-ups, discussions between drunks involving broken bottles, sad suicides and the feckless who think they might have caught something nasty but don't have a regular doctor, and want to be somewhere warm anyway.

So for some people reading this board, maybe the expression 'children of A&E' may not quite hit the right note.

Why not? Aren't we all children of A/E?

I was a home birth myself, and I am pretty sure I was born in the bed in which I was begotten. So no, I am not a child of A&E in the sense indicated in my post.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

bump

[_Chap]

bump

You'll probably find it goes quiet now ...

But in a few weeks bcspace will post the same stuff in another thread.