It's Official - Stand and Shout the Gays are Out (link)

[_Buffalo]

Bottom-rung "apologists", like you and LDS"faqs", actually make we wish simon and the stem were still here....They, occasionally, had an original thought.

I thought simon WAS the bottom of the rung. ldsfaqs and subgenius have convinced be that the rungs keep going down infinitely.

[_schreech]

Bottom-rung "apologists", like you and LDS"faqs", actually make we wish simon and the stem were still here....They, occasionally, had an original thought.

I thought simon WAS the bottom of the rung. ldsfaqs and subgenius have convinced be that the rungs keep going down infinitely.

No kidding, at least the stem could see, and object to, things that he didn't like within the LDS culture. While he was very bad at expressing himself, I respect the fact that he didn't feel the need to defend every idiotic teaching/directive of the LDS church. Never thought I would say this, but I kind of miss the stem....He was not a complete tool like the current batch of "defenders"(?).

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

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[_Shulem]

subgenius,

Many of the things you say are just plain evil and full of hate. You really are someone I wish to never meet -- and it's just as well you never meet me. You need to be grabbed by a man, held down, and kissed.

I'm very close to putting you on ignore. You are a representation of Satan and all the hate filled things that go with killing others.

And, take the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 (created by Joe Smith the pimp) and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is NOT true. I bear my witness of that simple fact. You're doing a good job of helping the church lose business but it's sick to read about it. Keep it up.

Paul O

[_subgenius]

I thought simon WAS the bottom of the rung. ldsfaqs and subgenius have convinced be that the rungs keep going down infinitely.

note to self:
when Buffalot runs out of argument, or even faux-argument, Buffalot resorts to strategy of insult and ridicule.
interesting low-road strategy, lets see how Buffalot plays it out

[_subgenius]

...Keep it up.

wow, if you only had a dime for every time you uttered that phrase in anger.

I understand the grief you must be experiencing over the obvious consequences for the decisions you have made, though they seemed "so right" for how they satisfied your deep desires and how those "decisions" must have finally calmed the primal instinct for your natural man to "survive" - at any cost...to see it all erode against the unstoppable tide of reason and virtue, to watch it crumble under the tremors of logic and righteousness...such grief.
Yes, grief
let us consult Kübler-Ross

1. Denial - obvious by the many posts that simply claim "you must be wrong! i am who i really am"
2. Anger - obvious by the shift to insult and "name-calling", forget the facts, forget the reasons.
3. Bargaining - this will occur as the previous emotions are "rationalized"...as you reconcile how such things could happen.
4. Depression - a solitary awareness that your choices have dire consequences
5. Acceptance - Likely to occur when it is too late...but there is always a chance. the first step is admitting you have a problem.

i would say posts like yours and Buffalot's have you firmly placed at stage 2.
cya around

[_Chap]

...Keep it up.

wow, if you only had a dime for every time you uttered that phrase in anger.

I understand the grief you must be experiencing over the obvious consequences for the decisions you have made, though they seemed "so right" for how they satisfied your deep desires and how those "decisions" must have finally calmed the primal instinct for your natural man to "survive" - at any cost...to see it all erode against the unstoppable tide of reason and virtue, to watch it crumble under the tremors of logic and righteousness...such grief.
Yes, grief
let us consult Kübler-Ross

1. Denial - obvious by the many posts that simply claim "you must be wrong! i am who i really am"
2. Anger - obvious by the shift to insult and "name-calling", forget the facts, forget the reasons.
3. Bargaining - this will occur as the previous emotions are "rationalized"...as you reconcile how such things could happen.
4. Depression - a solitary awareness that your choices have dire consequences
5. Acceptance - Likely to occur when it is too late...but there is always a chance. the first step is admitting you have a problem.

i would say posts like yours and Buffalot's have you firmly placed at stage 2.
cya around

I am not gay.

It is not my impression that the level of unhappiness about life and relationships amongst people I know to be gay is significantly different from the level of unhappiness about life and relationships amongst people I know to be straight. And the latter level is certainly non-zero.

Is all well in subgenius's life, I wonder? I hope he is very happy, but he seems just a bit too angry and abusive for that to be the case.

[_subgenius]

I am not gay.

congratulations, but i am sure the need for you to express that here escapes me.

It is not my impression that the level of unhappiness about life and relationships amongst people I know to be gay is significantly different from the level of unhappiness about life and relationships amongst people I know to be straight. And the latter level is certainly non-zero.

and your point is?
because to hear the LGBT tell it, life is miserable with the denials that the homophobic society levies upon them every day. Many posters here have given clear testimony that the LGBT suffers under the yoke of society's "out-dated" virtues - one poster even proclaims that their position "saves lives", clearly making the inference that my position does not....how can one possibly draw the conclusion you are drawing here?
Besides, if there is no real difference in the level of happiness, then obviously the status quo is working....so, what is the problem exactly? (other than the obvious LGBT penchant for 'drama').

Is all well in subgenius's life, I wonder? I hope he is very happy, but he seems just a bit too angry and abusive for that to be the case.

yet another fine example of attacking the messenger instead of the message.
for the record, i am happy.....very happy....often to the point where it seems inappropriate.

as for the perceived "angry" and/or "abusive" quality in my posts, its rather ironic ain't it?.....
...usually its the critics and apostates who litter this board with bitter, crass, inflammatory, and degrading condemnations of the Church and insist that one degrade the intellect and personal character of any TBM.
But dare to challenge these critics' homogenized and sterilized utopias of self-righteousness or cloud the mirror that reflects their narcissistic statures and watch them clamor about, pointing fingers of accusation, collecting rope and lighting torches for lynching, all the while adding yet another disgust filled brick to their walls of "self" protection.

by the way, your screen-name, "chap", is that noun or the verb?

yummmmmm....that is tasty milk

[_Blixa]

For the love of Elohim, Schreech, please don't quote so much garbage. It obviates the beauty of the Ignore feature.

[_Yoda]

yet another fine example of attacking the messenger instead of the message.
for the record, i am happy.....very happy....often to the point where it seems inappropriate.

as for the perceived "angry" and/or "abusive" quality in my posts, its rather ironic ain't it?.....
...usually its the critics and apostates who litter this board with bitter, crass, inflammatory, and degrading condemnations of the Church and insist that one degrade the intellect and personal character of any TBM.
But dare to challenge these critics' homogenized and sterilized utopias of self-righteousness or cloud the mirror that reflects their narcissistic statures and watch them clamor about, pointing fingers of accusation, collecting rope and lighting torches for lynching, all the while adding yet another disgust filled brick to their walls of "self" protection.

For the record, I think it is wrong for parties on both sides of the aisle to resort to name calling and personal attacks.

That being said, as a fellow Church member, I find it ironic that you are taking this "eye for an eye" approach. BC does it as well, but I have more respect for him because he is very knowledgeable, and at least backs up what he says with substance. He also has been on the board long enough, and actually gotten to know many of us, so his responses are more measured with our personalities.

It might be wise for you to do the same, Subgenius. There is nothing wrong with engaging, but you tend to blatantly blast people and make assumptions without really taking a step back and getting to know them a little bit, and study their posting style.

Just food for thought.