The only true church?

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The only true church?

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Does the first presidency want the church to stop saying that they are the only true church? I don't think anyone from the first presidency has made that statement at conference since 2008. Anyone else notice that? I only hear some of the 70 and local members saying it (every fast Sunday).
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If true, this is a risky move. Why pay tithing to LDS if it isn't the only true?
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zeezrom wrote:If true, this is a risky move. Why pay tithing to LDS if it isn't the only true?

I guess for the same reason you did for your whole life, God said to.

I don't think they would ever say that the church isn't true, but I think they want to move away from the us vs them idea. They would rather just get along with everyone rather than say that another faith is the great whore or being deceived by the devil.
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zeezrom wrote:If true, this is a risky move. Why pay tithing to LDS if it isn't the only true?

Plus they probably feel more honest not saying it out loud.
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If all Christian churches are true, why not just focus loyalty on the broad Christian cause? Why pay more than members of the other Christians and why pay to any single church if they are all true?
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Re: The only true church?

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I think your hearing is flawed.....

I've never heard any 70's or members saying the Church is "not the only True Church".
Maybe you are confusing something they are saying in another context?

The Church has always been diplomatic when it concerned other religions. We have always said other religions hold truths, do good, etc.
Quote Mining some .0001% negative statements from history is not what Mormonism says and does 99.9999% of the time concerning other religions.

Also, your statement about the "great whore" and "of the devil" is also false.
Mormonism has NEVER taught this. And the ones who did Orson Pratt and Bruce McConkie were corrected for it, because it is a false interpretation of the scripture. The Church for example had McConkie remove it from his 2nd edition of Mormon Doctrine.

You should learn that there is a difference between anti-mormon claims which bears false witness of Mormonism in almost every claim and what Mormonism actually is.
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Re: The only true church?

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Does the first presidency want the church to stop saying that they are the only true church? I don't think anyone from the first presidency has made that statement at conference since 2008.


A quick search shows late 2011 at least.
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Re: The only true church?

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ldsfaqs wrote:I think your hearing is flawed.....

I've never heard any 70's or members saying the Church is "not the only True Church".
Maybe you are confusing something they are saying in another context?

The Church has always been diplomatic when it concerned other religions. We have always said other religions hold truths, do good, etc.
Quote Mining some .0001% negative statements from history is not what Mormonism says and does 99.9999% of the time concerning other religions.

Also, your statement about the "great whore" and "of the devil" is also false.
Mormonism has NEVER taught this. And the ones who did Orson Pratt and Bruce McConkie were corrected for it, because it is a false interpretation of the scripture. The Church for example had McConkie remove it from his 2nd edition of Mormon Doctrine.

You should learn that there is a difference between anti-mormon claims which bears false witness of Mormonism in almost every claim and what Mormonism actually is.


Can you show me evidence that the church corrected them? Just because you think the church did does not mean the church did.
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Re: The only true church?

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bcspace wrote:
Does the first presidency want the church to stop saying that they are the only true church? I don't think anyone from the first presidency has made that statement at conference since 2008.


A quick search shows late 2011 at least.


Who? What did he say?
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Re: The only true church?

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ldsfaqs wrote:I think your hearing is flawed.....

I've never heard any 70's or members saying the Church is "not the only True Church".
Maybe you are confusing something they are saying in another context?

The Church has always been diplomatic when it concerned other religions. We have always said other religions hold truths, do good, etc.
Quote Mining some .0001% negative statements from history is not what Mormonism says and does 99.9999% of the time concerning other religions.

Also, your statement about the "great whore" and "of the devil" is also false.
Mormonism has NEVER taught this. And the ones who did Orson Pratt and Bruce McConkie were corrected for it, because it is a false interpretation of the scripture. The Church for example had McConkie remove it from his 2nd edition of Mormon Doctrine.

You should learn that there is a difference between anti-mormon claims which bears false witness of Mormonism in almost every claim and what Mormonism actually is.


So if the church had McConkie remove incorrect teachings from the 2nd edition of Mormon Doctrine, why can't we conclude that they agreed with the other parts of the book that they didn't ask him to remove?
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