So did I. From what I can see, all of the amazing "attested" ancient names seem derived from Biblical names, which should not surprise anyone. Also, the only Jaredite names that Mopologists claim survived are single-syllable words, and of course it's not difficult to find single-syllable names in a number of languages.
What Kerry would call the "weird" names, such as Coriantumr, don't appear anywhere but the Book of Mormon, suggesting that the other "unquestionably powerful" linguistic evidence is a result of strained attempts to find parallels.
Very nice illustration, Z. I like the idea of hollowed logs for drainage! A french drain of large sized gravel might have worked as well provided it attained the ground surface below the box.
Damn, those Nephites were smart.
Don't you mean Nephite? Or did Moroni enlist the help of all those 'other' local people who never got a mention in the book about their history?
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Drifting wrote:Don't you mean Nephite? Or did Moroni enlist the help of all those 'other' ocal people who never got a mention in the book about their history?
Of course. Just the one, very smart Nephite. It doesn't mention in the Book of Mormon that Moroni studied engineering, but it seems he must have. A degree from Moroni Tech?
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
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The first archaeological claims related to the Book of Mormon concern the purported facts of 22 September 1827: the actuality of metal plates preserved in a stone box. This used to be considered a monstrous tale, but concealing metal records in stone boxes is now a documented Old World practice. Stone offering boxes have also been discovered in Mesoamerica, but so far the golden plates are still at large—as we would expect them to be.
for what it's worth, I recently designed the Stone Box Moroni used to store the prizes. We have some major engineering challenges for a hill in New York state.
Zee,
I love your diagram. The one small addition I would suggest is some sort of escape tunnel or soft spot in the earth that would allow the box to 'settle away' when the proper enchantments were not used or were violated during the modern day discovery process.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Earthquakes in combo with freeze-thaw cycles pose the greatest threat to a 1300-year old stone vault in New York. It's not like Cairo or Athens!
Strong earthquakes in 1638, 1661, 1663, and 1732 in the St. Lawrence Valley and a shock near Newbury, Massachusetts, in 1727 were felt in New York before the first notable tremor centered within the State was recorded. On December 18, 1737, an earthquake near New York City threw down a number of chimneys (intensity VII). This shock was reported felt at Boston, Philadelphia, and at New Castle, Delaware.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
zeezrom wrote:Earthquakes in combo with freeze-thaw cycles pose the greatest threat to a 1300-year old stone vault in New York. It's not like Cairo or Athens!
Strong earthquakes in 1638, 1661, 1663, and 1732 in the St. Lawrence Valley and a shock near Newbury, Massachusetts, in 1727 were felt in New York before the first notable tremor centered within the State was recorded. On December 18, 1737, an earthquake near New York City threw down a number of chimneys (intensity VII). This shock was reported felt at Boston, Philadelphia, and at New Castle, Delaware.
Zee have you accounted for how to keep the Sword of Laben from rusting?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
I can't figure out a way for Moroni to prevent the formation of iron oxides. I was worried about water getting into the structure and freezing. Moisture in the air space is something we can't control.
I'm leaving this to the Power of God. You know, the same power used to make Mary's egg get fertilized.
Zee.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
I can't figure out a way for Moroni to prevent the formation of iron oxides. I was worried about water getting into the structure and freezing. Moisture in the air space is something we can't control.
I'm leaving this to the Power of God. You know, the same power used to make Mary's egg get fertilized.
Zee.
I'm wondering if by divine proclamation, God filled the box with some sort of petroleum jelly. This would have kept everything in good shape. Joseph didn't mention it, but he was probably too excited at the find to remember.
It might be a good idea for archaeologists to look for discarded Vaseline jars on Hill Cumorah.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Quasimodo wrote:I'm wondering if by divine proclamation, God filled the box with some sort of petroleum jelly. This would have kept everything in good shape. Joseph didn't mention it, but he was probably too excited at the find to remember.
It might be a good idea for archaeologists to look for discarded Vaseline jars on Hill Cumorah.
