LDS Church's Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns

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Re: LDS Church's Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns

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Buffalo wrote:
Exactly like Christ did for all mankinds sins.
So we know your suggestion is both feasible and agreeable to God.


Since Will Schryver has received his second anointing and had his calling and election made sure, I'd suggest him for the final baptism.


Perhaps MSJack could be the baptiser...

*officiator* "MSJack? Shouldn't you bring him up now?"
*MSJack* "Just ten more minutes..."
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Re: LDS Church's Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns

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Drifting wrote:
Perhaps MSJack could be the baptiser...

*officiator* "MSJack? Shouldn't you bring him up now?"
*MSJack* "Just ten more minutes..."


I seriously laughed out loud :D
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Re: LDS Church's Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns

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Fence Sitter wrote:Why they even bother to do it in this life is puzzling, wouldn't it just be a lot easier in the spirit world? After all spirits are made out of finer material that theoretically could be baptized.


Baptism for the dead is a key component of the church's business model. Baptism is needed prior to proxy endowments. Proxy endowments are done only by tithe paying adult members. Temple attendance is stressed as the highest visible proof of a member's righteousness and devotion. Take baptism for the dead away, and the church crumbles financially. No temples = less money.
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Re: LDS Church's Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns

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Yong Xi wrote:
Baptism for the dead is a key component of the church's business model. Baptism is needed prior to proxy endowments. Proxy endowments are done only by tithe paying adult members. Temple attendance is stressed as the highest visible proof of a member's righteousness and devotion. Take baptism for the dead away, and the church crumbles financially. No temples = less money.


Historically temple building for the early Church was a financial disaster. I am not sure about now since the church does not disclose it finances. While what you say may be possible, I think that building temples in such areas like Star Valley Wyo would indicate that not all temple building decisions are based in investment return. There is simply not enough of a population base there to justify a temple based on an increase in tithing revenues.

My question was more of a theological one at that. Genealogy work in general, as the Church approaches it, seems to be very counter productive. While I understand the need to want to know about our ancestors from a personal standpoint, trying to conduct proxy rituals here on earth for everyone that ever lived is not realistic or practical. Since this work can be done in the spirit world and or in the millennium at a much faster pace ("hey everyone looking for baptism line up here" sort of thing) why not just do it there?
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Judaism is not singled out when doing baptisms for the dead. After a few generations, whose ancestors belong to whom?

If I recall correctly The Church has recognised it is in error and has apologised and committed to stop doing it.


If my ancestor is a Jew, I can still have the work done.
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bcspace wrote:If my ancestor is a Jew, I can still have the work done.


And I'm sure you would do it before the body was cold.
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If my ancestor is a Jew, I can still have the work done.

And I'm sure you would do it before the body was cold.


Nope. That's just the Yellow Journalist in you.
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