why me wrote:And blacks and the priesthood, well, the old timers remember that. But the new members find out about it from the internet and are disappointed. Again, the critics put a twist to their interpretation about this issue.
What "twist" do critics put on that issue, and in what way is it false?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Maybe the exmos should start their own rescue squad. Saving apostates that have drifted back to the church. Of course, the only one I've ever heard of is ldsfaqs.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Modern Affairs like Hoffman and the Priesthood Ban aren't even discussed in the LDS meeting houses, and when people discover the truth on their own they get pissed because they were lied to or weren't given disclosure.
How often should the priesthood ban be discussed? Every week? Once a month? Once a year? And how often should we discuss Hoffman? Once a week? Once a month? Once a year?
We old timers remember the ban. Should we bring it up once a week? Should I give a talk about it? Should I mention it once a year in a ward meeting?
They could discuss the controversial issues as often as they show the fake picture of Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery studying the plates. Or at least as frequently as they teach the story of Thomas Marsh and the milk strippings as the prime example of why people apostatize.
How about bringing up the controversial topics when they are relevant to the lesson? Would that be so difficult? For example, how many times do they talk about Joseph Smith in Carthage Jail. Once a month? Once a year? Do they ever explain why he was in jail, other than "trumped up charges"? That would be the perfect opportunity to have a discussion on the division in the church over polygamy, which led to some high ranking members leaving and starting up the Nauvoo Expositor. How often is temple marriage discussed? That would be a perfect opportunity to discuss the controversy surrounding Emma Smith and the revelation on polygamy and her struggling with it, and the fact that he had already secretly married women behind her back. Every controversial issue can be discussed when the faith promoting version of it is taught.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
I think it's too late for the church to come clean - they'd have to admit to lying to membership from the beginning. But what they can do is try to make church a more meaningful experience. People will be less motivated to look for answers when their church experience is fulfilling, and it just isn't fulfilling for many Mormons. Sunday services are dreadful pap with a side guilt-mongering.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
I'm tempted to put you on ignore because you rarely ever say anything intelligent.
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Always yield to temptation Paul. I thought you had learned that ...
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Quasimodo wrote:Maybe the exmos should start their own rescue squad. Saving apostates that have drifted back to the church. Of course, the only one I've ever heard of is ldsfaqs.
Don Bradley.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Quasimodo wrote:Maybe the exmos should start their own rescue squad. Saving apostates that have drifted back to the church. Of course, the only one I've ever heard of is ldsfaqs.
Don Bradley.
That's two. If we get to five, there needs to be a rescue squad to stem the tide.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Quasimodo wrote:Maybe the exmos should start their own rescue squad. Saving apostates that have drifted back to the church. Of course, the only one I've ever heard of is ldsfaqs.
Speaking for apostates everywhere, I'd rather ldsfaqs stay on the apologetics side rather than the critical side.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.