Brainless LDS family dumps life savings into prop 8

[_TrashcanMan79]

I wonder what Rick and Pam Patterson must be feeling right now. I hope the Bee is able to land a follow-up interview with them.

[_moksha]

I never said that the Church was not encouraging this I said they are not the ones giving the money.

It sees unfair that the Church got called out for not declaring all the money we did not give on the campaign expenditures. Those California ethics people have a lot of nerve demanding to keep tabs on righteous campaign expenditures - which we didn't make and then make us pay after the fact for not declaring them, which was but an easy to make clerical error.

[_Jaybear]

Interesting thread.
I noted that a quick search reveals that thread contributors ...

Robert Crockett donated $5,100 to the cause.
Daniel Peterson donated a mere $100 to the cause.

No donations from Boyd Packer, or Thomas Monson.
Do as I say, not as I do?

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?Search+Again=

[_Buffalo]

I wonder what Rick and Pam Patterson must be feeling right now. I hope the Bee is able to land a follow-up interview with them.

Religious zealotry makes people stupid.

[_Fence Sitter]

I never said that the Church was not encouraging this I said they are not the ones giving the money.

It sees unfair that the Church got called out for not declaring all the money we did not give on the campaign expenditures. Those California ethics people have a lot of nerve demanding to keep tabs on righteous campaign expenditures - which we didn't make and then make us pay after the fact for not declaring them, which was but an easy to make clerical error.

I had multiple friends and family that were very upset that the amount of their contributions was made public. I expect that for some it was a fear that their fellow members would judge them by what was given and for others it was a fear of being judged by non members. I don't think I ran into anyone who was proud for the world to see his bigotry.

[_Runtu]

Interesting thread.
I noted that a quick search reveals that thread contributors ...

Robert Crockett donated $5,100 to the cause.
Daniel Peterson donated a mere $100 to the cause.

No donations from Boyd Packer, or Thomas Monson.
Do as I say, not as I do?

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?Search+Again=

I thought Bob opposed Prop 8. I'm confused.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Interesting thread.
I noted that a quick search reveals that thread contributors ...

Robert Crockett donated $5,100 to the cause.
Daniel Peterson donated a mere $100 to the cause.

No donations from Boyd Packer, or Thomas Monson.
Do as I say, not as I do?

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?Search+Again=

I thought Bob opposed Prop 8. I'm confused.

It's been quite a few years, but if memory serves (and if I'm wrong I'm sure Bob will jump in to correct me), he personally didn't like Prop. 8 (at least from a legal point of view), but he ended up supporting it (including donating quite a large sum to pass it) because the Prophet (then GBH) asked CA members to donate their time and money to get Prop. 8 passed. So, basically, he was just doing what he was told by the Brethren. Obviously, his money was wasted.

[_Brackite]

It's been quite a few years, but if memory serves (and if I'm wrong I'm sure Bob will jump in to correct me), he personally didn't like Prop. 8 (at least from a legal point of view), but he ended up supporting it (including donating quite a large sum to pass it) because the Prophet (then GBH) asked CA members to donate their time and money to get Prop. 8 passed. So, basically, he was just doing what he was told by the Brethren. Obviously, his money was wasted.

If he didn’t personally like it, then why did he donate that much money to it? Couldn’t he just hold his nose and voted for it without donated any money to it?

[_Maxrep]

When thinking about member encouraged donations, and the recent overturn of prop 8, I can't help but recall how early on, many critics(myself included) pointed out that the church's involvement in prop 8 would bite them in the a$$.

The church suffered internal conflicts with its own members to a degree they did not anticipate. Perhaps they did not hire out focus groups to cover how the general membership felt about this type of discrimination. Externally, the church took a public beating.

I imagine they viewed the gay and lesbian community as only being capable of wielding a nerf bat. However, when the blows started to land it became apparent that this nerf bat was more like solid hickory to the head.

The church may mutter a quiet parting shot with regards to the 9th district decision, but they will not be getting back into the ring. The gloves have been set aside.

I am interested to see if same sex marriage ends up being a state by state decision as time goes by. If so, perhaps Georgia or Alabama will end up as the last state to legalize this type of union. Utah won't go last. Yes, yes, I know there are alot of Mormons in Utah. And Utah does seem pretty stalwart on this issue at the moment. But as time passes and more states ratify gay marriage, Utah will understand what it would mean to be among the very last states to hold to this type bigotry, especially in light of their quite peculiar historical practice of what appropriate marriage can encompass. Utah will not want to carry that title. They are still trying to shake the Miss Polygamy USA crown. Utah, with all its oddities, can't afford that type of permanent label.

I wonder if Dan and Bob still have their "I donated to Prop 8" bumperstickers?

Once in a while on television there will be a human interest piece about a family that has fallen on hard times, or has brushed up against misfortune in some form. A film crew may show up and announce to the family that a corporation has volunteered to renovate their home for them, or replace their broken down station wagon with a top of the line minivan. Maybe someone from LDS headquarters will soon inform the Pattersons, because of their faithful generosity to prop 8, that the church would like to cover the financial expense of their childrens future tuitions at BYU?

[_Milesius]

Religious zealotry makes people stupid.

Uh-huh. What's your excuse?