Romney and Gingritch

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_Yoda

Re: Romney and Gingritch

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BC wrote:Take 2 Samuel 12:7-11 for example. This is where the prophet Nathan, in chastising David for his sin with Bath-Sheeba and the subsequent murder of her husband (by David's command), delivers a message from the Lord stating that the Lord, who had given David his current set wives, would have given David more wives he he had but asked instead of just taking whom he pleased and without authorization.


You have used this example before, and this is why I have problems with it.

David was a king. Kings during that era in history had many wives. It was part of the culture. Since the Lord allowed David to become king, the wives were, during that era, "part of the package". Women were identified through the social standing of their husbands. Murder was clearly against the law, and that is what Nathan was chastising David about.

I think that it is quite a leap from this scripture to conclude that God authorized plural marriage as the preferred norm.

It also bothers me that D&C 132 tells a completely different story about what happened with Abraham and Sarah. In the Old Testament, it is Sarah who offers Hagar, her handmaiden to Abraham, in order for the lineage to continue. In section 132, it states that God commanded Abraham to lie with Hagar. Very different accounts.
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Re: Romney and Gingritch

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bcspace wrote:Neither have all other Christians.

Chap wrote:I wonder what it means to have polygamy in your scriptures?

The Old Testament - correct me if I am wrong, by citing the text - seems to assume that men will have wives, but does not show any signs that the deity it describes is concerned to urge that men should in general have a lot of wives, or just one.



bcspace wrote:Take 2 Samuel 12:7-11 for example. This is where the prophet Nathan, in chastising David for his sin with Bath-Sheeba and the subsequent murder of her husband (by David's command), delivers a message from the Lord stating that the Lord, who had given David his current set wives, would have given David more wives he he had but asked instead of just taking whom he pleased and without authorization.


If the deity described in the Old Testament says to anyone 'you could have more wives if you wanted to', that makes my point. He is not saying 'I command you to have number W of wives', but displaying indifference to the number.
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Re: Romney and Gingritch

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Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich do not like each other that much.
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