John 3:61

[_CaliforniaKid]

For God so loved the world that he sacrificed his only begotten son in a bloody spectacle in order to propitiate his own anger toward you and to be able to associate with you without tarnishing his pristine righteous image. Therefore, give thanks.

[_MrStakhanovite]

Was that your understanding of Christ’s death while you were a Christian, Chris?

[_Hoops]

For God so loved the world that he sacrificed his only begotten son in a bloody spectacle in order to propitiate his own anger toward you and to be able to associate with you without tarnishing his pristine righteous image. Therefore, give thanks.

Perfect interpretation, encompassing the whole of the Bible and theological study over 2000 years.

Now, next verse? I'm sure you'll get that one right as well.

[_Ceeboo]

For God so loved the world that he sacrificed his only begotten son in a bloody spectacle in order to propitiate his own anger toward you and to be able to associate with you without tarnishing his pristine righteous image. Therefore, give thanks.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

NOT CHRIS TOO!!!!!

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A very bummed Ceeboo

[_Ceeboo]

This place is REALLY sucking lately!

[_Aristotle Smith]

John 3:62

Whereof this is an addendum to John 3:61: Thou shalt also believe in a penal substitutionary atonement and thou shalt wait until St. Anslem for the first articulation of said atonement theory. I may be "the way, the truth, and the life," but Anselm is the bomb-diggety, therefore thou shalt see Cur Deus Homo for further light and knowledge.

[Guest]

For God so loved the world that he sacrificed his only begotten son in a bloody spectacle in order to propitiate his own anger toward you and to be able to associate with you without tarnishing his pristine righteous image. Therefore, give thanks.

When I was a Christian, I certainly understood that many of my co-religionists thought this way and was revolted by it. Fortunately I belonged to a church that did not prescribe a precise mode of theological understanding of such matters, so I did not feel too out of line.

I treated Jesus' death as a voluntary act of solidarity with human suffering by God, who suffered with us on the cross, and rather than concentrating on the dying that God did for us, I focused on the resurrection as a sure sign that, at the end of it everything, all should be well, and all manner of things should be well.

It was a really good story. Pity that is all it was ...

Maybe I would have stayed a Christian if I had been more death-centered? But life seemed so much more the kind of thing that God would be interested in.

[_Hoops]

This place is REALLY sucking lately!

Yep.

[_Molok]

This place is REALLY sucking lately!

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[_Ceeboo]

Hey Molok

This place is REALLY sucking lately!

edited by harmony.

I'm giving it serious consideration.

Peace,
Ceeboo