1. Santorum is an anti-evolution, “intelligent design” supporter who has written that ID “is a legitimate scientific theory that should be taught in science classes.” It isn’t, and it shouldn’t.
2. Santorum is an opponent of embryonic stem cell research, and in his opposition, he cites other scientific avenues like adult stem cell research as an adequate substitute–despite the fact that scientists say we need to try all approaches, rather than limiting inquiry. Or as the International Society for Stem Cell Research puts it: “Research on human embryonic stem cells, somatic cell nuclear transfer, induced pluripotent state cells (iPS cells) and ‘adult’ or tissue-specific stem cells needs to continue in parallel. All are part of a research effort that seeks to expand our knowledge of how cells function, what fails in the disease process, and how the first stages of human development occur. It is this combined knowledge that will ultimately generate safe and effective therapies.”
3. Santorum is a global warming skeptic. Witness this 2008 column in the Philadelphia Inquirer, claiming that “global temperatures have actually cooled over the last 10 years and are predicted to continue cooling over the next 10.” No they aren’t.
If Gov. Huntsman wants to believe that he is the descendant of a monkey, then he has the right to believe that — but I disagree with him on this and the many other liberal beliefs he shares with Democrats.
Some Schmo wrote:As a Republican friend of mine said recently, a vote for Romney is two votes for Obama. I tend to agree. I just don't see Romney swaying many independents. Unless something radical happens, sit tight for another 4 years of the Democrats in the White House.
Yep, here's how I see it.
1. Mitt Romney. A wooden Mormon (not really liked by any Republican) who's business life was spent buying undervalued companies and dissecting them, laying off the employees.
2. Rick Santorum. A fundamentalist Catholic that one would try to avoid at a cocktail party. Tea party members would not be invited to a cocktail party, so lets say "kegger".
3. Newt Gingrich. The next poster child for conspicuous consumption and gluttony in both diet and relationships (replacing Rush Limbaugh). Seriously, does anyone like Newt?
4. Ron Paul. Not really a Republican. Disliked by both parties for his various points of view. His candidacy is only important in that it takes votes from the others.
For what it's worth.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Quasimodo wrote:That being said, I think Romney's chances are close to that. I'm not really worried about either one in the national race and Romney as the nominee will bring out all those "uncomfortable" facts about the Church.
Exactly, and four years of him in the White house will keep that discussion going during that time. Those uncomfortable facts will not just be limited to obscure discussion boards but will be argued out in every household in the nation. What a fascinating time that would be.
I like Romney. I would vote for him Mormon or not. I just see it as a huge bonus that he is LDS.
Personally, I think that Romney is the best bet Republicans have. I'm not very happy with him, though. I wouldn't like to see him as President.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
If this back-and-forth drags on into April or May we might see the first interesting convention in fifty years. Either way I don't think Obama is going down based on Electoral math alone. A decided enthusiasm gap is appearing as well, powered by the fear of a Republican administration after the tea party has proven itself to be more interested in legislating morality than governing as well as the slowly improving economy.
I bet Tim Pawlenty is kicking himself for quitting so early last Fall. He would have been a better "middle America conservative" than Santorum.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Quasimodo wrote:1. Mitt Romney. A wooden Mormon (not really liked by any Republican) who's business life was spent buying undervalued companies and dissecting them, laying off the employees.
He also put his dog on the roof of the car. Is that not a morality litmus test?
"Is it okay to strap a dog in a pet carrier to the roof of your car?"
Yes [ ] No [ ]
2. Rick Santorum. A fundamentalist Catholic that one would try to avoid at a cocktail party. Tea party members would not be invited to a cocktail party, so lets say "kegger".
Is Rick Santorum involved in Opus Dei? I wonder these things.
3. Newt Gingrich. The next poster child for conspicuous consumption and gluttony in both diet and relationships (replacing Rush Limbaugh). Seriously, does anyone like Newt?
At least three women liked Newt at some point. But currently, yes at least one person likes Newt.
4. Ron Paul. Not really a Republican. Disliked by both parties for his various points of view. His candidacy is only important in that it takes votes from the others.
Ronnie...he at least isn't totally full of crap which I respect and find refreshing. (I wish Obama would actually speak his mind and admit he's for gay marriage and at least an agnostic). Too bad Paul is crazy on domestic issues.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
Bond James Bond wrote:I bet Tim Pawlenty is kicking himself for quitting so early last Fall. He would have been a better "middle America conservative" than Santorum.
+1
Pawlenty has gotten behind Mitt and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the VP nod from Romney, especially if Santorum continues to dog his claims of invincibility.
I do think that Romney is not safe, though, despite what everyone wants us to believe. Santorum has the social conservatives dusting off their voter registration cards that they had put away when the "other Rick" bowed out. I've already had the conversations at work with conservative colleagues that showed they were all about his conservative values. Of course, I love nothing more than to fire hose those ideas with reminders that 2008 GW Bush was considered the most vile of the vile by the tea party conservatives for his spending habits. And who was right there with a nice big (R) by his name spending big dollars? I'd suggest that Santorum has as large an albatross around his neck as Romney does between Santorum's record in the Senate and Romney's role in Massachusetts health care law when it comes to so called conservative values. At least, when those values have to do with things other than what other people do in their bedrooms anyway.
We have such short political memories.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Bond James Bond wrote:I bet Tim Pawlenty is kicking himself for quitting so early last Fall. He would have been a better "middle America conservative" than Santorum.
+1
Pawlenty has gotten behind Mitt and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get the VP nod from Romney, especially if Santorum continues to dog his claims of invincibility.
I do think that Romney is not safe, though, despite what everyone wants us to believe. Santorum has the social conservatives dusting off their voter registration cards that they had put away when the "other Rick" bowed out. I've already had the conversations at work with conservative colleagues that showed they were all about his conservative values. Of course, I love nothing more than to fire hose those ideas with reminders that 2008 GW Bush was considered the most vile of the vile by the tea party conservatives for his spending habits. And who was right there with a nice big (R) by his name spending big dollars? I'd suggest that Santorum has as large an albatross around his neck as Romney does between Santorum's record in the Senate and Romney's role in Massachusetts health care law when it comes to so called conservative values. At least, when those values have to do with things other than what other people do in their bedrooms anyway.
Truly. Santorum's ethics, including after his Senate stint like how exactly he got that sweet heart deal of a house in Virginia; while he was billing Pennsylvania to home school his kids will be a serious hurdle if he gets the nomination. I think it's possible since Santorum currently holds a lead in Michigan. If Santorum takes Michigan (Romney's dads' home state) and then rolls into the South and can take some of the big states of Super Tuesday (Georgia/Ohio/Tennessee/Virginia if he figures out how to get on the ballot) he might slam the door in Romney's face. Romney doesn't strike me as a huge fighter. He seems like an entitled guy who if he was to take a devastating loss might bow out rather than continue as the underdog after running continuously for the past 6 years.
We have such short political memories.
Indeed. Did you know there wasn't even a deficit before Obama started the recession before he was elected President?
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Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
I don't think it makes much of a difference at all who will be president. The president has very little impact on the economy. If the next 6 months are good economically, Obama will win, if not the GOP candidate (probably Romney) will win.
Niether one will be able to affect much change in the next 4 years beyond the normal business cycle that will happen regardless.
But the president that is in power when the economy really turns will be the hero - regardless of who it is. If it's Mitt, every TBM will credit the church for some reason.