A Bigger problem
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A Bigger problem
I know this has at least two other threads, but I see this as a much larger problem than whether this young lady followed the dress code or not.
This sexualizing of women by BYU honor code and Mormon culture is completely missed by the people of Utah and Mormons for the most part. The BYU leadership should be ashamed of themselves. They remind me of a bunch of old men looking at young ladies with prurient thoughts.
This is not just an anomaly. The incident with the women wearing "skinny" pants at BYU Idaho (and then being condemned for it) and this incident are some signs of how big a problem exists in Mormon society.
http://trevorantley.com/2012/02/15/byu- ... omment-887
Read the comments. It is quite informative. The ones from "Mary Keller" provide us with a glimpse into the mind of a typical BYU Student of today.
http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu ... 0428.story
You have to wonder what the hell is the matter with Utah? Do people in Utah get how stupid they look to the rest of the civilized world? These reporters look as stupid as you can get debating this issue.
This sexualizing of women by BYU honor code and Mormon culture is completely missed by the people of Utah and Mormons for the most part. The BYU leadership should be ashamed of themselves. They remind me of a bunch of old men looking at young ladies with prurient thoughts.
This is not just an anomaly. The incident with the women wearing "skinny" pants at BYU Idaho (and then being condemned for it) and this incident are some signs of how big a problem exists in Mormon society.
http://trevorantley.com/2012/02/15/byu- ... omment-887
Read the comments. It is quite informative. The ones from "Mary Keller" provide us with a glimpse into the mind of a typical BYU Student of today.
http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu ... 0428.story
You have to wonder what the hell is the matter with Utah? Do people in Utah get how stupid they look to the rest of the civilized world? These reporters look as stupid as you can get debating this issue.
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Re: A Bigger problem
The more removed I become the more clearly I see the ridiculousness of such things.
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Re: A Bigger problem
Remove yourself from north america and you'd be surprised how ridiculous the whole thing looks.
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If BYU wants to make itself, and by extension the CoJCoLDS, look ridiculous, then that is their inalienable right under the Constitution.
And who would want to stand in their way?
I cannot say that I have passed a celibate life. But I cannot think of any occasion on which I have done something of which the CoJCoLDS would disapprove in connection with intergender relations ... wait, I haven't finished ... because the woman in question was wearing clothing of a kind that transgressed the BYU honor code.
And who would want to stand in their way?
I cannot say that I have passed a celibate life. But I cannot think of any occasion on which I have done something of which the CoJCoLDS would disapprove in connection with intergender relations ... wait, I haven't finished ... because the woman in question was wearing clothing of a kind that transgressed the BYU honor code.
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I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Jason Bourne wrote:The more removed I become the more clearly I see the ridiculousness of such things.
And it gets harder and harder to ignore the ridiculousness of it all.
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Jason Bourne wrote:The more removed I become the more clearly I see the ridiculousness of such things.
harmony wrote:And it gets harder and harder to ignore the ridiculousness of it all.
No doubt.
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Chap wrote:If BYU wants to make itself, and by extension the CoJCoLDS, look ridiculous, then that is their inalienable right under the Constitution.
And who would want to stand in their way?
I cannot say that I have passed a celibate life. But I cannot think of any occasion on which I have done something of which the CoJCoLDS would disapprove in connection with intergender relations ... wait, I haven't finished ... because the woman in question was wearing clothing of a kind that transgressed the BYU honor code.
I now have rotator cuff problems from the whiplash caused when stopping my righteous indignationary onslaught at your claim to celibacy...
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Joe Geisner wrote:Read the comments. It is quite informative. The ones from "Mary Keller" provide us with a glimpse into the mind of a typical BYU Student of today.
What leads you to the conclusion that her position is typical of BYU students? Based on the comments I've found on numerous blogs and message boards (and Facebook), her position is decidedly atypical.
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quaker wrote:Remove yourself from north america and you'd be surprised how ridiculous the whole thing looks.
Indeed how often I hie to kolob, looking back and laugh at a world gone mad.
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harmony wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:The more removed I become the more clearly I see the ridiculousness of such things.
And it gets harder and harder to ignore the ridiculousness of it all.
Ha ha, you said "harder". That word is probably forbidden in the BYU honor code as well.
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