Why Intellectuals Cannot Become REAL Christians

[_Nightlion]

Intellectual derives from the Pawtawattami Indian phrase "em tell actual" meaning a truth teller.
You can dispute me all day if you like. If you wanna. The learned latched onto it kind of like the born againers saying the are saved. In reality the Pawtawattami really meant heap big guesser. The truth teller is a gotten up lie of the devil.

Will your deity hate me if I know some Latin, a language that contributed words to modern European languages long before native Americans like the Pawtawattami had the misfortune to meet people of European descent?

Because I know some Latin, I know that two thousand years ago the Romans used the verb 'intelligere' meaning 'to understand'. Full details are:

present active intelligō, present infinitive intelligere, perfect active intellixī, supine intellictum.

It is a variant of intellegō, and is related to 'legere', 'to read'.

Yeah, you're right. I was just havin' fun with my Pawtawoosies.

INTELLECTUALS are READERS.

Readers are people who crave to have somebody else do all their thinking for them.

I buy it. Since the gospel is so incredibly obscure it requires great original thinking to discover it as led on by the drawing unto Christ of God and further that they must focus upon a path covered over and cumbered by false ways and traditions that hinder, it is a monumental task of heart, might, mind and soul, proving the wannabe saint the epic intellectual/spiritual hero in the drama of it all and gaining the greatest of rewards to boot.

But the academic intellectual skeptics with their ape-mind critical thinking (extreme prejudice) have stolen the handle of intellectual to keep it from the Saint, like the EVs stole being Born Again. The devil is behind both.

[_Chap]

Yeah, you're right. I was just havin' fun with my Pawtawoosies.

INTELLECTUALS are READERS.

Readers are people who crave to have somebody else do all their thinking for them.

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I read your posts. Do I give you the impression that I want you to do my thinking for me?

In my job, people say "well done" when you have read what other people write, and then come up with a way of looking at things that no-one else has thought of yet, but is none the less persuasive.

Things are in fact the opposite way round from what you say.

[_Nightlion]

Yeah, you're right. I was just havin' fun with my Pawtawoosies.

INTELLECTUALS are READERS.

Readers are people who crave to have somebody else do all their thinking for them.

....

I read your posts. Do I give you the impression that I want you to do my thinking for me?

In my job, people say "well done" when you have read what other people write, and then come up with a way of looking at things that no-one else has thought of yet, but is none the less persuasive.

Things are in fact the opposite way round from what you say.

No, you had to go outside the fort to make that stick. Inside the hut here things are as I say. When was the last time any intellectual of the exmo stripe had an original thought?
They breathe they quote. Without a quote they will not say. The quote is their power and their master and to do its bidding their only desire.

[_Chap]

Yeah, you're right. I was just havin' fun with my Pawtawoosies.

INTELLECTUALS are READERS.

Readers are people who crave to have somebody else do all their thinking for them.

....

I read your posts. Do I give you the impression that I want you to do my thinking for me?

In my job, people say "well done" when you have read what other people write, and then come up with a way of looking at things that no-one else has thought of yet, but is none the less persuasive.

Things are in fact the opposite way round from what you say.

No, you had to go outside the fort to make that stick. Inside the hut here things are as I say. When was the last time any intellectual of the exmo stripe had an original thought?
They breathe they quote. Without a quote they will not say. The quote is their power and their master and to do its bidding their only desire.

I intend to stay out of your hut. And I am not an exmo.

[_Nightlion]

I intend to stay out of your hut. And I am not an exmo.

I am certainly not saying all exmos are intellectuals. They know who they are. I am considering a very narrow field of a few enmeshed in gospel studies.

[_Gordon]

You misspelled intellectual.

Whoops...*blushes*

[_Franktalk]

I am certainly not saying all exmos are intellectuals. They know who they are. I am considering a very narrow field of a few enmeshed in gospel studies.

There is a small section of people who will seek to a high level of understanding and I agree they will only achieve this if they let go. But a vast majority of people of faith have a very limited understanding and are happy with what they have. Where you and I may be drawn into deep waters few actually go there. It is mostly fear that keeps them out. Fear of losing what precious faith they already have. I will say that those who try the path of deep water but use the tools of the world soon lose faith because they stumble. They don't connect the dots and see that by holding on to the world they must let go of something else. But the reason they won't let go is based on their worldly knowledge that they trust. It defines them. They can't see that by letting go they will actually find their true self. The natural man must die.

[_Nightlion]

The natural man must die.

I was teaching the gospel to an LDS co-worker. And she said, well, whatever IT is THAT is what I got. lol The pride of these days is killer.

You know, Franktalk, I have decided that I alone restored the Church. Joseph Smith attempted but failed. I am the only one to have accomplished it and kept it for over forty years. Nobody else has even expounded it competently. They are still guessing badly. I am not limited in decrying the whole lump of Mormonism. It is absolute failure.

I hope, sincerely, that you know what you are talking about. My experience tells me otherwise.

There is an untold event on hold. A bit much and I would rather it were touted no so much by me. But this thing will go a great way to validate my apostleship.

[_Franktalk]

You know, Franktalk, I have decided that I alone restored the Church. Joseph Smith attempted but failed. I am the only one to have accomplished it and kept it for over forty years. Nobody else has even expounded it competently. They are still guessing badly. I am not limited in decrying the whole lump of Mormonism. It is absolute failure.

I do not know all about the doctrines of the church and I think I may never know them in this lifetime. I also know we don't achieve anything as a group but we achieve in a personal journey. The things revealed to me are for me and I will talk about them as I would with anything of value. I will say that anything of man is not perfect and if not guided by God must by nature be wrong. So any church will have its faults so I don't expect nor do I observe perfection.

Right now I see many pieces of a very large puzzle. Maybe one day more will be revealed to me. I have decided that I will wait for what is given. The church is a body and the body has many parts. Not all of the parts are the same. I don't expect to be the same as another nor do I expect to have the same understanding. The flesh is weak. Knowing how weak the flesh is I am very curious why you think you have it all figured out? I know for sure that I have many things wrong. Very few things I am sure of.

[_Nightlion]

You know, Franktalk, I have decided that I alone restored the Church. Joseph Smith attempted but failed. I am the only one to have accomplished it and kept it for over forty years. Nobody else has even expounded it competently. They are still guessing badly. I am not limited in decrying the whole lump of Mormonism. It is absolute failure.

I do not know all about the doctrines of the church and I think I may never know them in this lifetime. I also know we don't achieve anything as a group but we achieve in a personal journey. The things revealed to me are for me and I will talk about them as I would with anything of value. I will say that anything of man is not perfect and if not guided by God must by nature be wrong. So any church will have its faults so I don't expect nor do I observe perfection.

Right now I see many pieces of a very large puzzle. Maybe one day more will be revealed to me. I have decided that I will wait for what is given. The church is a body and the body has many parts. Not all of the parts are the same. I don't expect to be the same as another nor do I expect to have the same understanding. The flesh is weak. Knowing how weak the flesh is I am very curious why you think you have it all figured out? I know for sure that I have many things wrong. Very few things I am sure of.

I am not claiming infinite knowledge. I only claim to have gotten the gospel right and kept it and learned about it for forty years in a state of grace that significantly allowed me insight and oversight in the architecture of Zion done the only way that it ever will be done.

There is a pre-church that Joseph did succeed in establishing. It was and has continued under official condemnation for taking lightly all that it has received. In order for Zion to exist there must be those who do according to that which is written and receive the power to redeem Zion and build it up unto the Lord clean and acceptable.

That is where my expertise is. Thinking about this controversy daily against the resistance of the entire LDS community has rounded off a polish shaft in the quiver of the Lord. The natural arrogance of people will insist that if they know ABOUT it then they own it. This is the most serious mistake commonly made in attempting to come unto Christ and obtain his kingdom.