Apostates

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_Willy Law
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DarkHelmet wrote:
I know where BC Space is going with this. The key word is "want". As a TBM he doesn't want to read, listen, think about, or discuss anything that would cause his god, parents, or pastor to be upset.


Is BC really considered a TBM? Internet Mormon for sure, but after reading his interpretations of the teachings of LDS prophets, TBM?? Not so much.
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Franktalk wrote:
LDSToronto wrote:Oh, please...One finds friendship with like-minded people. This is why religious communities work, too. And you've heard of this place called The Bible Belt, right Frank? That place is all about casting aspersions on those who aren't god-fearing.


Of course people gather with like minds. And I do agree that many Christians do judge way too much. Now there is a difference between talking about the behavior of someone and talking about where they may go after death.

My comments are a little over the top. But I thought I would bring some balance to the thread.

Frank


Why does it matter where we go after death?

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Willy Law wrote:
DarkHelmet wrote:
I know where BC Space is going with this. The key word is "want". As a TBM he doesn't want to read, listen, think about, or discuss anything that would cause his god, parents, or pastor to be upset.


Is BC really considered a TBM? Internet Mormon for sure, but after reading his interpretations of the teachings of LDS prophets, TBM?? Not so much.


He's certainly not TBM the way we think of it. But I'm sure he considers himself to be a TBM, even the Truest of the TBMs.
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He's certainly not TBM the way we think of it. But I'm sure he considers himself to be a TBM, even the Truest of the TBMs.


About as TBM as you can get. There are some small doctrines I don't accept (publicly) but no one's released me yet over them.
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bcspace wrote:
He's certainly not TBM the way we think of it. But I'm sure he considers himself to be a TBM, even the Truest of the TBMs.


About as TBM as you can get. There are some small doctrines I don't accept (publicly) but no one's released me yet over them.


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just me wrote:Oh, look, here's a link to a bunch...

http://knotmyline.wordpress.com/2007/07 ... charities/


Now take away all those supported by taxes. Now take away those supported by just a few people. How many are left? Oh, and take away those that support abortion. An abortion is not an act of charity.

So how you doing? We should find some topic to beat to death.
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Franktalk wrote:
just me wrote:Oh, look, here's a link to a bunch...

http://knotmyline.wordpress.com/2007/07 ... charities/


Now take away all those supported by taxes. Now take away those supported by just a few people. How many are left? Oh, and take away those that support abortion. An abortion is not an act of charity.

So how you doing? We should find some topic to beat to death.


Those are some GREAT charities. You really don't know what you're talking about.
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Franktalk wrote:
just me wrote:Now take away those supported by just a few people.


Huh? What does that have to do with anything? I'm sure every charity out there would love to have the support of everyone, but since charitable contributions are voluntary, they get what they can get.
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Re: Apostates

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bcspace wrote:
He's certainly not TBM the way we think of it. But I'm sure he considers himself to be a TBM, even the Truest of the TBMs.


About as TBM as you can get. .


BC do you believe the following statement is true?

In the spring of 1820 a 14 year old Joseph Smith saw God the Father and Jesus Christ in the sacred grove?
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Re: Apostates

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bcspace wrote:
Apostates are also free—or, rather, “freethinkers.” Having discarded religious faith, they feel free to read whatever they want, listen to whatever they want, think about whatever they want, discuss whatever they want, and let their minds wander or ponder as they will, without fear of eternally damaging their souls, angering their God, or disappointing their parents or pastor. Finally, apostates are life-lovers—or at least strong life-appreciators. They either don’t believe in an afterlife, or they don’t worry too much about it. Instead, they focus on the here and now, deriving joy, emotional sustenance, and individual purpose by engaging in this world and appreciating the time they have on earth.


As a TBM, I'm not limited in any way. Certainly not in these areas.


Ok, bcspace, are you free to think about whatever you want without jeopardizing your soul?
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