"An Insiders Guide To Mormon Origns"

[Guest]

In another thread Palmer exposes some of the details surrounding the Church's attempt at discrediting this book by threatening him with excommunication if he refused to state the contents were lies.

Obviously he refused and he [edit] resigned.

But which part of the books contents are lies?

[_Tobin]

You have your facts wrong, yet again. Grant resigned from the church and was not excommunicated.

[_Chap]

... which part of the books contents are lies?

Which indeed?

[_harmony]

You have your facts wrong, yet again. Grant resigned from the church and was not excommunicated.

Details. Details.

Answer the question.

[_Tobin]

Details. Details. Answer the question.

Answer what? Grant resigned. There was no church court. Ther was no excommunication. There is no account from him about how he answered each individual charge in the church court because it never happened.

In another thread I said I have agreed with Grant on various things he has said in that past too. Particularly about his criticims that the church is too focused on an exclusive instead of an inclusive Jesus. I also agree with him that nobody but Joseph Smith could have written the Book of Mormon. I don't agree that Joseph Smith wrote it or that it is a 19th century production, but I didn't say I agree with everything Grant has to say. And there are many other points that I agree and disagree with him on as well. It isn't like I'm unfamiliar with what he has had to say.

[_Buffalo]

Details. Details. Answer the question.

Answer what? Grant resigned. There was no church court. Ther was no excommunication. There is no account from him about how he answered each individual charge in the church court because it never happened.

In another thread I said I have agreed with Grant on various things he has said in that past too. Particularly about his criticims that the church is too focused on an exclusive instead of an inclusive Jesus. I also agree with him that nobody but Joseph Smith could have written the Book of Mormon. I don't agree that Joseph Smith wrote it or that it is a 19th century production, but I didn't say I agree with everything Grant has to say. And there are many other points that I agree and disagree with him on as well. It isn't like I'm unfamiliar with what he has had to say.

Grant Palmer was disfellowshipped in 2004, and recently threatened with excommunication. So there was a court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_H._P ... discipline

[_DarkHelmet]

Answer what? Grant resigned. There was no church court. Ther was no excommunication. There is no account from him about how he answered each individual charge in the church court because it never happened.

Grant Palmer was disfellowshipped in 2004, and recently threatened with excommunication. So there was a court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_H._P ... discipline

Maybe the bishop disfellowshipped him unilaterally without a court. Of course, we all know Grant Palmer is lying, because the church would never discipline someone for simply pointing out issues that everyone already knows about because the church has never tried to hide these issues and they are readily available for anyone who is interested and the church isn't embarrassed by any of this stuff. Why would there need to be any disciplinary action?

[_SteelHead]

Tobin,
I am pretty sure the details being asked are regards to which part of the book(s) are lies.

Focus like a laser.

[_Tobin]

Answer what? Grant resigned. There was no church court. Ther was no excommunication. There is no account from him about how he answered each individual charge in the church court because it never happened.

In another thread I said I have agreed with Grant on various things he has said in that past too. Particularly about his criticims that the church is too focused on an exclusive instead of an inclusive Jesus. I also agree with him that nobody but Joseph Smith could have written the Book of Mormon. I don't agree that Joseph Smith wrote it or that it is a 19th century production, but I didn't say I agree with everything Grant has to say. And there are many other points that I agree and disagree with him on as well. It isn't like I'm unfamiliar with what he has had to say.

Grant Palmer was disfellowshipped in 2004, and recently threatened with excommunication. So there was a court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_H._P ... discipline

If you want to play your little games, go ahead. It is plain as day you took what I said completely out of context. There is no point even responding to you if you have to be so obviously dishonest. I made no reference to his disfellowship at all.

[_Madison54]

It isn't like I'm unfamiliar with what he has had to say.

Tobin,

Have you read Palmer's book?

Have you listened to his podcasts on Mormon Stories (the first one and now the recent one)?