Reconciling Genesis and Evolution

[_bcspace]

I believe God created the earth yes.

Then you don't know much about evolution.

I know the Theory of Evolution doesn't speak to Cosmogenesis or Abiogenesis which is more than you can say. Nor does it preclude the existence of God or God's hand in it.

[_Buffalo]

I know the Theory of Evolution doesn't speak to Cosmogenesis or Abiogenesis which is more than you can say. Nor does it preclude the existence of God or God's hand in it.

The mechanisms which drive evolution are well-understood. You'll find that Yahweh isn't one of those mechanisms, per evolutionary theory.

[_bcspace]

I know the Theory of Evolution doesn't speak to Cosmogenesis or Abiogenesis which is more than you can say. Nor does it preclude the existence of God or God's hand in it.

The mechanisms which drive evolution are well-understood.

No they're not. There are too many cells and sub cellular components and their chemical reactions to keep track of in one individual of a species, much less an entire species or all species on the earth. When science can do that, let me know.

Plus, natural selection is also driven by environmental/geological factors which science also cannot keep track of comprehensively enough for similar reasons. There is no way to scientifically confirm or deny God's hand in evolution and therefore as per the truism I stated, Evolution cannot preclude the existence of God or His hand in it.

[_Buffalo]

No they're not. There are too many cells and sub cellular components and their chemical reactions to keep track of in one individual of a species, much less an entire species or all species on the earth. When science can do that, let me know.

Plus, natural selection is also driven by environmental/geological factors which science also cannot keep track of comprehensively enough for similar reasons. There is no way to scientifically confirm or deny God's hand in evolution and therefore as per the truism I stated, Evolution cannot preclude the existence of God or His hand in it.

So, essentially, this is god to you:



There is neither evidence nor any indication that any supernatural characters are meddling with evolution. All evidence is consistent with unguided evolution. You know that to be the case.

[_bcspace]

There is neither evidence nor any indication that any supernatural characters are meddling with evolution.

Doesn't have to be for such to exist. You yourself are making scientific evidence a qualification and as you are admitting (by not addressing), science is not anywhere near a level required to preclude Divine intervention. For that to happen and be reasonably certain, you must be able to account for all activity down to at least the sub atomic level of every individual of every species over many generations.

[_Buffalo]

There is neither evidence nor any indication that any supernatural characters are meddling with evolution.

Doesn't have to be for such to exist. You yourself are making scientific evidence a qualification and as you are admitting (by not addressing), science is not anywhere near a level required to preclude Divine intervention. For that to happen and be reasonably certain, you must be able to account for all activity down to at least the sub atomic level of every individual of every species over many generations.

It's possible that garden gnomes come to life invisibly and subtly affect dew levels on your lawn. It's possible that Yahweh, god of war and metallurgy, is meddling with gene expression. But the evidence for either is zero.

Come back when you have some evidence of celestial meddling and we'll talk.

[_bcspace]

But the evidence for either is zero.

So is the evidence for the nonexistence of God. There will be a few who give their opinions, but no scientist will say, in a scientific sense, that evolution precludes God.

[_Stormy Waters]

Doesn't follow. God can't create a rock so heavy He can't lift it so omnipotent simply means being able to everything that is possible to do at most. Obviously, God is omnipotent relative to man.

So your argument is that evolution is the best God can do? God appears very limited if he has to resign himself to a process that takes 4 billion years. This seems an unlikely scenario for a God that can part the red sea, heal the sick, turn water into wine, and walk on water.

[_Stormy Waters]

God evidently liked trilobites a lot more than He likes us humans. They were dominant for a quarter of a billion years. Modern man hasn't had even one hundredth of that time. Much less, if one calculates in Eden Daylight Time from Daviess County, Mo.

It's like it says in the scriptures "For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of trilobites".

[_The Dude]

The stuff about Han Solo and parsecs is pretty good apologetics. The only thing missing is the classic finish: "It fits together so perfectly. How could George Lucas have known? He must be a prophet inspired by God."