OMG, Rules of Conduct at the Mormon Mall???

[_Buffalo]

It's like they think this is a Mormon version of Disneyland.

Utah is so lame that a mall pretty much IS the Mormon version of Disneyland.

[_cafe crema]

Well it's not down the street, it's in MN but it seems to have the same rules plus some.

We would like to remind you to watch your valuables. For the security of our guests, please do not leave purses and other items unattended. Also, please note that while at Mall of America®, you may be subject to a security interview.

Violators of any of the Mall Rules will be asked to leave the property or possibly be arrested.

In order to assist in our efforts to provide a safe, secure and pleasant shopping environment, we ask for your cooperation with the following:
Conduct

Conduct that is disorderly, disruptive or which interferes with or endangers business or guests is prohibited. Such conduct may include running, loud offensive language, spitting, throwing objects, fighting, obscene gestures, gang signs, skating, skateboarding, bicycling etc.
Intimidating behavior by groups or individuals, loitering; engaging in soliciting; blocking storefronts, hallways, skyways, fire exits or escalators, and walking in groups in such a way as to inconvenience others is prohibited.
Picketing, demonstrating, soliciting and petitioning is prohibited.
Distributing handbills requires the prior written consent of Mall of America® management.

Violations of the Law

The commission of any act defined by Federal, State or local ordinances as a criminal act is prohibited. These include, but are not limited to: graffiti, property damage, defacing, damaging or destroying any real or personal property, etc.
Guns are banned on these premises.
Using or possessing consumer fireworks is prohibited.

Clothing/Attire

Appropriate attire, including shirts and shoes, must be worn.
Wearing apparel which has obscene language, obscene gestures, or racial / religious / ethnic slurs that are likely to create a disturbance is prohibited.
Wearing clothing which deliberately obscures the face: such as hooded tops, will not be allowed.
Bulletproof vests or simulated bulletproof vests will not be allowed.

Service Animals

Only animals trained to assist persons with disabilities are permitted within Mall of America.

Mall Equipment

Escalators are not to be used as stairways when not operational. NO STROLLERS or WHEELCHAIRS are allowed on escalators.

Smoking
Mall of America is a smoke free property

[_Yahoo Bot]

It's their mall, they can have any rules they want. I wonder how these rules compare to the rules the mall down the street has? I suspect they are quite similar.

That isn't true. They can't have any rules they want. If you open malls to the public where there are quasi-public places, there are limits. Every major mall today tries to push up right up to the limit. Go over the line and you get hit with First Amendment lawsuits. Standard stuff, and the downtown SL mall is no different.

[_just me]

No bullet proof vests at that mall? What is the world coming to??? LOL

[_Hoops]

It's their mall, they can have any rules they want. I wonder how these rules compare to the rules the mall down the street has? I suspect they are quite similar.

That isn't true. They can't have any rules they want. If you open malls to the public where there are quasi-public places, there are limits. Every major mall today tries to push up right up to the limit. Go over the line and you get hit with First Amendment lawsuits. Standard stuff, and the downtown SL mall is no different.

I think you knew what I meant. Rules within the law - whatever those laws might be.

[_Hoops]

So it appears all this consternation is only reserved for THIS mall because it's owned by Mormons. True - because it's a Mormon board, but the implication is that this mall is somehow different than all the others because Mormons own it when it would appear it is not

Which aah is going to stand up and say that?

[_Drifting]

So it appears all this consternation is only reserved for THIS mall because it's owned by Mormons. True - because it's a Mormon board, but the implication is that this mall is somehow different than all the others because Mormons own it when it would appear it is not

Which aah is going to stand up and say that?

I am that aah.

This mall is different because it is claimed to have been constructed under divine guidance.
So one is expected to believe that Christ is okay with spending $billions on a shopping mall where immodest clothing and non Word of Wisdom compliant products will be sold, whilst spending comparatively small amounts on things like humanitarian aid, child poverty etc.

I am not aware of any other mall in the world that has been funded by donations to a Church. Donations that the donors had no idea were going to be invested in businesses to generate profits to fund a shopping mall.

If you think this mall is in no way different to any other, feel free to say so.

[_Chap]

So it appears all this consternation is only reserved for THIS mall because it's owned by Mormons. True - because it's a Mormon board, but the implication is that this mall is somehow different than all the others because Mormons own it when it would appear it is not

Which aah is going to stand up and say that?

Given the vast cost over-runs on this project, the fact that all the money controlled by the CoJCoLDS ultimately comes from the donations of church members, and given that the CoJCoLDS is currently telling its members that there is no more money to spend on such things as cleaning ward-houses (so members have to do that themselves), all the time refusing to let even its own members look at the books, it may be that both Mormons and exmormons on this Mormon Discussions Board may legitimately feel a special interest in the way this particular mall will be run.

You and I are not forced to join in if the subject does not interest us.

[_Hoops]

Given the vast cost over-runs on this project, the fact that all the money controlled by the CoJCoLDS ultimately comes from the donations of church members, and given that the CoJCoLDS is currently telling its members that there is no more money to spend on such things as cleaning ward-houses (so members have to do that themselves), all the time refusing to let even its own members look at the books, it may be that both Mormons and exmormons on this Mormon Discussions Board may legitimately feel a special interest in the way this particular mall will be run.

You and I are not forced to join in if the subject does not interest us.

Well, there's one "no". Any others?

[_Hoops]

I am that aah.

This mall is different because it is claimed to have been constructed under divine guidance.
So one is expected to believe that Christ is okay with spending $billions on a shopping mall where immodest clothing and non Word of Wisdom compliant products will be sold, whilst spending comparatively small amounts on things like humanitarian aid, child poverty etc.

I am not aware of any other mall in the world that has been funded by donations to a Church. Donations that the donors had no idea were going to be invested in businesses to generate profits to fund a shopping mall.

If you think this mall is in no way different to any other, feel free to say so.

Which wasn't the point of the OP. The OP was saying that this mall has rules that are oppressive. They are not. The rules are just like all the others, it would seem.