The Vision of the Anointed Never Faileth at FAIR

[_Hoops]

A pox on the entire house.

I was just reading that today. Cool!!

[_Hoops]

No disrespect, Droopy, but a brief aside.

In a post full of mixed metaphors, this is my favorite:

Its one thing to steady the ark, but how many bodies can one cram into the Holy of Holies at one time...

though

Please, I'm not crying sour grapes.

...is pretty good.

But the first job is to be effective - make you note what he's saying. Mission accomplished, I say.

Not sure if you're serious or not, but I enjoyed it.

[_3sheets2thewind]

By using the term "victims" juliann has placed herself above the prophets.

[_Analytics]

Of course I have not been following the goings on at the ridiculous MAD board (or is it MDD now? whatever). So I have no idea what the board standard is on the latest blacks/priesthood controversy. Nor can I quite figure out what yours is from the OP and how it is so antithetical to the board-standard orthodoxy.

Is one side standing by the racist BYU professor and the other denouncing him? Or is the line drawn along some other axis?

Just curious about the nature of the latest storm...

There are clearly two camps: one that says "the ban was doctrine commanded by God, but we don't know why he commanded it," and one that says, "the ban maybe wasn't commanded by God." Those two sides are having a pretty heated conversation.

A third group are the ones who say, "It was commanded by God, and we DO know why!" Saying or implying that we know God's reasons for having the ban is NOT tolerated. That's how Droopy comes across.

[_The Dude]

A third group are the ones who say, "It was commanded by God, and we DO know why!" Saying or implying that we know God's reasons for having the ban is NOT tolerated. That's how Droopy comes across.

Weird that the wouldn't tolerate what is orthodox to a good percentage of older-generation corridor Mormons. It's not exactly a fringe view, is it? Does Juliann think this only comes from quasi-fundamentalists and trolls? Or maybe it's the way Droopy says things...

[_bcspace]

I thought I said "jack booted thugs". But I couldn't find me using either term on this board except this latter to compare public school songs of praise to Obama to the Hitler Youth.

[_Analytics]

A third group are the ones who say, "It was commanded by God, and we DO know why!" Saying or implying that we know God's reasons for having the ban is NOT tolerated. That's how Droopy comes across.

Weird that the wouldn't tolerate what is orthodox to a good percentage of older-generation corridor Mormons. It's not exactly a fringe view, is it? Does Juliann think this only comes from quasi-fundamentalists and trolls? Or maybe it's the way Droopy says things...

What we know is that the church finds it VERY embarassing to hear Mormons say the blacks couldn't have the priesthood because they sat on the fense, or because they couldn't handle the responsibility, or whatever.

The Church knows lots of people believe it. It doesn't want to offend anybody or admit to anything, so all it will say is, "we don't know the exact details about everything."

Regarding Mormon D&D, the idea is that if the New York Times were to quote somebody from D&D, they don't want to worry about the church having to immediately issue a press release distancing itself from the D&D Saints' views.

[_moksha]

... to compare public school songs of praise to Obama to the Hitler Youth.

But would you be willing to offer praise to the man who communed with Anna Kournikova?

If the MDD moderators want to follow a course to set things right for the Church in the eyes of God and Man, more power to them. However, I do disagree with censoring posters bearing the former message they were given. It takes time for new ways of thinking to be accepted.

[_Darth J]

I'm beginning to appreciate people like Joanna Brooks for paving the way to a more diverse Mormon culture.

Oh, I could not agree more. If there is any organization that is amenable to a grass-roots movement toward liberalization led by a female scholar, it is the LDS Church.

[_Darth J]

This issue has brought the righteously neo-orthodox (such as Jeremy Orby Smith) well out of the closet and into the arena. The gloves are now apparently off.

Meanwhile, the winter of our discontent tries to fill the holes in the dike. The chickens have come home to roost.