There's a big difference between being offended and finding something peculiar.
Chap is giving a lesson on semantics on another thread. Why don't you stop by?
I lived around here on and off for many years, so mention of this trip would be no different than you mentioning a trip back home to see your parents, for example.
Good for you.
Unless I mentioned that I was in Oman, the whole point of the eight-bottle experiment would sort of be lost, would it not?
If you say so. Lighten up.
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What grounds Hoops had for finding DrW's highly relevant mention of his Oman trip 'peculiar' is a mystery that she has not seen fit to reveal to us.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
DrW wrote: Tana, thanks for the insights as to oceangoing small boat design. You would get a kick out of this. On the way over, I read an article in SAIL about the Strangite Mormon colony founded in 1848 on Beaver Island in Lake Michigan. The secular history of the Strangite group, and their relationship to Joseph Smith and his sect of Mormons, as described to the general public in SAIL magazine, was very different than what I was taught in Seminary.
James Strang had the main town on Beaver Island named after him (St. James). Like Joseph Smith, he had himself crowned King, and like Joseph Smith, he was killed by angry locals (after he ordered some of their wives flogged for dress code violations - so take heed, BYU co-eds)
Unlike Smith, Strang at least had the honesty to declare himself a polygamist publicly. Like the main Mormons, the Strangites did not get along well with the locals, who eventually drove them off the island after Strang's death. Today there are still about 650 residents on the island.
A polygamist living on Beaver Island...you just can't make this stuff up...
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DrW wrote: On the way over, I read an article in SAIL about the Strangite Mormon colony founded in 1848 on Beaver Island in Lake Michigan. The secular history of the Strangite group, and their relationship to Joseph Smith and his sect of Mormons, as described to the general public in SAIL magazine, was very different than what I was taught in Seminary.
James Strang had the main town on Beaver Island named after him (St. James). Like Joseph Smith, he had himself crowned King, and like Joseph Smith, he was killed by angry locals (after he ordered some of their wives flogged for dress code violations - so take heed, BYU co-eds)
Unlike Smith, Strang at least had the honesty to declare himself a polygamist publicly. Like the main Mormons, the Strangites did not get along well with the locals, who eventually drove them off the island after Strang's death. Today there are still about 650 residents on the island.
Pretty succinct history of a branch of the Mormon Church, related to the general public in a secular magazine the context of a Lake Michigan day sail adventure.
In many ways his life was very similar to Joseph Smith's in how they both used religion. While Smith focused on religion, Bennett used a variety of institutions and organizations besides religion such as state and local governments, universities and schools, local and state militia, medical publications, and poultry and horticultural groups to promote himself. If he had been a bit more discrete and a lot more focused in Nauvoo, the Utah Mormon branch may well have been known as the Bennettites instead.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
If he had been a bit more discrete and a lot more focused in Nauvoo, the Utah Mormon branch may well have been known as the Bennettites instead.
He might have been able to extricate Joseph Smith from his difficulties in one piece. Bennettites in the west today would probably be substantially saner than the Brighamites. Not that that would help that much.
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