Presentism: It's fine except when it isn't

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Re: Presentism: It's fine except when it isn't

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Nightlion wrote:This here is a great one to feed you all some crow. The gospel of the Book of Mormon IS the same as the Old Testament gospel referred to as to "know the Lord" "get a new heart from God" (King Saul) and no longer a child of Belial as with Hannah, the mother of Samuel,(The same as to forsake the natural man and become a new creature, a saint, a child of God, by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost.) The act of circumcision was to remind the Hebrew of their obligation to circumcise the foreskin of their hearts, that the Lord may put his love in them. That is pure Christianity. It is all over the face of the Old Testament. To say nothing about the pure Christian gospel taught to Adam in the Book of Moses. This the sons of Eli refused to do, so they were very much cognizant of it. Must I fill up a page of quoted scripture?

You learned folk just can't see it because, as Jesus said, you must be born again to SEE the
kingdom. Hasty ways make for pasty faces when truth stares you in the face. Eventually somewhere a scroll will unravel and reveal plainly that the Ancient Hebrews (those few who could make the grade) were born again Christians. Not as the EVs are born again, heaven forbid, but as in the Book of Mormon. Their Zenos and Zenock and Neum know all about it. Probably all Hebrew prophets that were taken out of The Prophets by haters of God. Truth shall again spring forth from the ground. I pray for it. If the Lord was particular that the Nephites have the words of Malachi then Zion shall have the words of Zenos, Zenock and Neum.


And what if they didn't exist, Nightlion? If there were no Hebrew prophets, no Nephite prophets, no Islamic prophets... just men, listening to the wind and wishing they were more powerful than they were, so made things up? Created multiple abominations, in the name of God, without God at all? What then?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Re: Presentism: It's fine except when it isn't

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MCB wrote:Seth;
Which all ties into Masonic fabrications of ancient history, when, in fact, Masonry evolved from a humble trade union.

Yeah, that sort of causes bcspace mind-twisters: to think, his beloved, politically-conservative faith is in large measure based on trade union notions and practices, trade unions of the 20th Century having been clearly and mostly aligned with the Democratic party in the U.S.

SEIU for bcspace???
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Re: Presentism: It's fine except when it isn't

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One of my favorite abuses by Mormonism defenders of the presentism stain against critics is the 'prevalence of folk magic' in and about upstate New York in the 1820s and 1830s.

It was then against New York state law to be a glass-looker for hire.

Case closed.
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