In an exchange in this thread Droopy comments to one of my comments as follows:
But I like Kevin and I like you except when you get personal with me.
Unfortunately, you tend to get personal so much of the time that not getting personal back is a task worthy of Hercules himself. You tend to get personal with the Brethren, for example, which I take exception to because I have a long and experienced testimony of their essential worthiness and veracity within the mantels and responsibilities they hold.
I will defend them when attacked by demagogic critics and anti-Mormon bigots like Kevin.
Droopy often makes a claim that I or others get personal with him before he launched into personal attacks, and at times, tirades against his opponents. But as far as I am concerned this has not been the case for some time. This thread and another illustrate this quite well.
In the OP of this thread that I started all I said was this:
Droopy, in another thread, thinks that when I say the brethren have back peddled from much of what Mormism used to be, says I am the one who has back peddled. Well perhaps.
But here is a link from the Prophet Seer and Newsroom, that new pronouncer of revelation and doctrine for the LDS Church. Take a look at let me know what you think? Has the LDS Church back peddled? On some of these I don't think many leaders from SWK back would recognize a lot of the LDS Church today?
I then posted a link to the Newsroom as well as various parts of that link and commented. No personal attacks on Droopy whatsoever. Droopy then responds with some commentary to make a defense and than tosses out this hand grenade:
Pull the lever on the anti-Mormon slot machine in your mind again, and see what comes up.
A bit snide but not overtly personal.
I then said:
And Droopy's response drives home my point about how horribly the defenders of the Church do and why it turns me right off. More later
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There was nothing personal in my comment other than I thought he made a bad defense and I would explain why later. I did not have the time at that point. Droopy then tosses out his typical personal attacks:
It turns you off because you have ceased, long ago, to concern yourself with the truth or the processes necessary to "dig it up," and, like so many others here, you do not appear to have the intellectual temperament or exploratory attributes required to look at these things in a rigorous, philosophically open way.
Note: when you insult my intelligence (and your own) with sloppy, facile thinking and argumentation, I tend to respond in a more assertive and less philosophical manner.
When I explained why I found his defense lacking as well as some of my reasons for it he says:
This is all a part of the standard "Why I left the Church narrative" that I've seen many, many times. I do not doubt that it has caused you pain. The problem is not your suffering, as that may be, but your rejection of the light and truth of the gospel and the Lord's authorized Church and the authority within it, which indicates that perhaps, you have not yet suffered nearly enough.
Yes, it may be, and as your mind continues to darken, that even the light you had is taken from you, it will become ever more unlikely that I or any other apologist will be able to have a civil or reasoned discussion with you.
Take a look at Kevin Graham, and ask yourself it that is what you wish to become (because there is a long history in the Church of that pattern being followed to its sad end time and again).
So who started the getting personal Droopy. You just can’t resist acting like the high and mighty self righteous one calling all of us utterly blighted, foolish and intellectually crippled fools just that. You do it often. You also constantly want to act the role of the one who has the light and knowledge from God. Anyone who deviates from your view has a darkened mind. You even run into this problem on the MDD board with other defenders. How many times have you been banned there and them come here to complain?
This happened on another thread called The Vision of The Anointed Never Faileth at FAIR when I challenged some of Droopy’s positions. He did give some reasonable responses that perhaps could have led to an interesting discussion. But he can’t resist getting personal when he says to me:
You've acclimated yourself nicely to this environment, Jason. I've watched the developmental stages in progress for a number of years. Interesting how these things evolve and grow.
Excuse me, but you are the one who has back peddled - right out of the Church. ( this was in response to me saying the brethren have back peddled on things)
Then only reason I post this is to show to the interested reader that while Droopy thinks he has taken the high road he really hasn’t. I guess it is telling in his comment above about getting personal. He feels any critical comments about the GAs and what they do, how they act, what they say, etc it a person attack. This because he says he has a testimony that they are trustworthy. Well whatever. I don’t expect things to change with Droopy but just wanted to leave a trail here on this topic.